Trump Fan Cites, "Send Them Back" Before Shooting Up Texas Walmart...

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Nobody has to "think" the shooter was a racist.    He self identifiied with a white-nationalist manifesto before the shooting occurred.    Is it Boilerman's conclusion the manifesto is not racist?

 

Lets be clear - this was not a kid who was acting out against bullying at school.  THis was a politically motivated hate crime spawned by the same rhetoic that has infiltrated the right's mediasphere.   

 

We have free license to connect the dots with 9/11 and radical Islam -as we should.     But for some reason its out of bounds....or rationally  unfounded  to try to do the same with events like this and the radical rhetoric being aspoused by the president and his preferred media sources.    . 

 

THis kid is directly citing the  president of the UNited States as part of his radical zeitgeist.     That should ring an alarm that at best our president has gone too far with his rheotirc....or at worst is purposefully enabling this behavior.    And the same holds true for the FOX primetime crew....and Breitbart.com.     Because thats where these psycho's are getting their information from.

 

ANy reformed alcoholic or drug addict will tell you the first step to solving a problem is identifying it exists.    There is a massive slew of our population that has not recognized this problem yet.     

 

 


Grasshopper, you’re missing the point.

 

In Mark's eyes, the killer and I are both racist and equals.  I suggest that this is not true, and another example of Mark's hijacking of the word "racist", and misrepresenting the truth when he uses this word.

You don't have to connect any dots to understand the shooter's motivation and influences.  He specifcally tells us who it is and who it is not. 

 

Who He Blames for his actions

He says "In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto."  "The inconvenient truth is that our leaders, both Democrat AND Republican, have been failing us for decades." Also emphasizes "The takeover of the United States government by unchecked corporations."

 

"The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations. Corporations are heading the destruction of our environment by shamelessly over harvesting resources."

 

So...we have a racist murderer influenced by an Austrailian Mass Murderer AND blames the situation on illegal immigrants AND both Democrats and Republicans AND corporations destroying the environment. 

 

Who He Does Not Blame for his actions

"My ideology has not changed for several years. My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president. I putting this here because some people will blame the President or certain presidential candidates for the attack. This is not the case. I know that the media will probably call me a white supremacist anyway and blame Trump’s rhetoric. The media is infamous for fake news. Their reaction to this attack will likely just confirm that. "

 

Who do you blame?

Blaming President Trump for the actions of a lunatic is not only sad but it's sick political postering.  That part in his manefesto about blaming corporations for destroying the environemtn could have been said by Sanders or Warren or even PJ himself.  I imagine you all now have to take credit for 'purposefully enableing' his behavior with your anti-corporate environmental rhetoric....just like you want to blame President Trump.

 

I suspect when all is said and done, we'll find he has been treated for depression or psychosis, that he played violent video games for countless hours and there were lots of red flags for many years that were ignored.  If you want to blame someone....blame his fucking parents.

 

 

Edited on Aug 4, 2019 10:16am

I dont see anywhere on this thread wher Mark equated you (Boilerman) to the shooter.   

 

I do see you desperately trying to change the topic of this thread from a white-nationaist inspired murder spree....to Mark's interpretation of racism.

 

Why is that, I wonder?

Edited on Aug 4, 2019 9:18am

What is really sad is mark shortly after this tragedy running to his computer to post this on a gambling web site.


Nobody here politicized the shooting.   The shooting was  in of itself political - hence  the shooter's white nationalist hate manifesto that preceded it.    

 

Whats really sad is people like Tom and Boilerman dont find the act itself nearly as awful as the people who bring attention to it and the motives behind it.

 

Its only acceptable to point when  such acts are performed by people in turbins, right guys?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited on Aug 4, 2019 10:29am

What is also really sad is both Mark and PJ are the worst kind of liberals - they twist words and are the first to deflect from the facts when confronted with the truth. And they actually BELIEVE their idiotic postings. 

PJ Stroh...You and Mark politicized the shooting by directly or indirectly blaming it on President Trump.  That's just like those that blamed the 5 Police Officers assasinated in Dallas on President Obama and the left's Anti-Cop Rhetoric or the shooting of Steve Scalise on left wing anti-Republican rhetoric. 

 

You know vitrually any political speech is going to offend or inspire some mentally ill person nowadays.  But using the blood of innocent victims to smear your political opponents?   Blaming the President and his millions of supporters for the actions of a deranged person is just wrong.  It's too bad you don't see that.  I really think Trump Derangement Syndrome is a thing..

Edited on Aug 4, 2019 11:52am

 

 

Candy said, Mark is in the category of that rotton one, because he can't wait to spread a message of hate as quickly as he can find one, or twist something to turn it into one.   No need to use a gun.

 

People that voted for Trump sure have a difficult time coming to terms with what they voted for.  The best I can hope for from these people is a moment of fleeting honesty.

 

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See just the other day Candy concluded Trump's words could be dangerous. Yet today she insists it is me that is being hateful for making the same connection she did. Trump inspires and motivates these kooks with his hate-filled speech.  It is inhuman to not acknowledge this connection between the two.  I posted an FBI memo on the 1st that indicated the FBI was worried about this kind of political terrorism being perpetrated by radical conservatives. Was that a message of hate too?

 

 

Boiler said, Mark thinks the killer is a racist.  Mark also thinks that I'm a racist...

 

Not at all. I think at times you sincerely don't understand how some of your remarks are interpreted by the majority of the people hearing or reading them. 

 

PJ Said, Nobody has to "think" the shooter was a racist.    He self identifiied with a white-nationalist manifesto before the shooting occurred.

 

We have free license to connect the dots with 9/11 and radical Islam -as we should.     But for some reason its out of bounds....or rationally  unfounded  to try to do the same with events like this and the radical rhetoric being aspoused by the president and his preferred media sources.    . 

 

 

Exactly! Rember when Trump said this, Obama “disgracefully refused to even say the words ‘Radical Islam’,” Trump said in a statement Sunday. “For that reason alone, he should step down. If Hillary Clinton, after this attack, still cannot say the two words ‘Radical Islam’ she should get out of this race for the Presidency.”

 

Why can't Trump say Radical Conservatism or Radical White Nationalism? Why does he instead incite these folks?  Trump couldn't even bring himself to condemn Neo-Nazis chanting, "Jews will not replace us." The shooter, as described in his manifesto, subscribed to this same replacement theory. It is the same theory that the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter believed in. It is the same theory the Christ Church shooter cited. Trump couldn't bring himself to condemn this racist conspiracy theory because he knew it would hurt him with the part of his base that was chanting along with the folks carrying the tiki torches. 

 

Edited on Aug 4, 2019 3:12pm
Originally posted by: Charles

PJ Stroh...You and Mark politicized the shooting by directly or indirectly blaming it on President Trump.  That's just like those that blamed the 5 Police Officers assasinated in Dallas on President Obama and the left's Anti-Cop Rhetoric or the shooting of Steve Scalise on left wing anti-Republican rhetoric. 

 

You know vitrually any political speech is going to offend or inspire some mentally ill person nowadays.  But using the blood of innocent victims to smear your political opponents?   Blaming the President and his millions of supporters for the actions of a deranged person is just wrong.  It's too bad you don't see that.  I really think Trump Derangement Syndrome is a thing..


No, I dont know that "any" political speech is going to inspire some mentally ill person nowadays.   I cant think of any speech made by any president prior to this one that was specifically cited by racist psychos as their motivation....maybe because all the presidents prior to this one didn't try to purposefully divide the country with race, religion, or immigration status.

 

And people like you dont hold him accountable.    In fact, you cheer him on.

 

And thats the AMerica we live in today.

Hate lives in the heart of the racist murderer. It also lives in the hearts of Mark and PJ. Your hate for the president is just as vile. 

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