Trump going after United Health

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

Does Government run anything well?  We want to put them in charge of healthcare?!? 


They do indeed run it better than the for-profit sector.  Look at outcomes in other first world countries vs ours in and they do it for half the price or less. It's time to quit sticking our heads in the sand and look at the data available that tells how to how to do it that will provide the best outcomes.  Hint: it is not what we are doing now.     Going after United is great but truthfully all the private health plans pull the same shit.  

  Healthcare is secondary to profit for healthcare providers. Presently to satisfy the greed of providers, the only touted - dumbass - solution Democrats champion is to force tax payers to pay more in taxes to create Universal Healthcare for everyone. The pitfalls of this stupidity are well known - poor care, months long waiting to get care - all the while having those who choose and live a healthy lifestyle being burdened and paying for the healthcare for those who make themselves sick by the life choices they make. This is no different than the premiums every vehicle driver pays for car insurance - insured drivers pay ever increasing  premiums for the uninsured.

Edited on Feb 23, 2025 11:19am
Originally posted by: David Miller

  Healthcare is secondary to profit for healthcare providers. Presently to satisfy the greed of providers, the only touted - dumbass - solution Democrats champion is to force tax payers to pay more in taxes to create Universal Healthcare for everyone. The pitfalls of this stupidity are well known - poor care, months long waiting to get care - all the while having those who choose and live a healthy lifestyle being burdened and paying for the healthcare for those who make themselves sick by the life choices they make. This is no different than the premiums every vehicle driver pays for car insurance - insured drivers pay ever increasing  premiums for the uninsured.


This asinine and selfish argument is nothing new; it assumes that people get sick or injured because it's their own fault, and blah blah blah, why should the noble folks who haven't needed medical care (yet!) pay for those that do.

 

I sincerely hope, David, that you become seriously sick or injured, and you slowly waste away, bleed to death, whatever, with no access to medical care, so that in your dying moments, you can appreciate what a horrid, self-absorbed POS you've been all your life.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

This asinine and selfish argument is nothing new; it assumes that people get sick or injured because it's their own fault, and blah blah blah, why should the noble folks who haven't needed medical care (yet!) pay for those that do.

 

I sincerely hope, David, that you become seriously sick or injured, and you slowly waste away, bleed to death, whatever, with no access to medical care, so that in your dying moments, you can appreciate what a horrid, self-absorbed POS you've been all your life.


  Your vitriol for me is as expected. I will live long after you are planted and residing in hell.


I like the system in France.

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

I like the system in France.


Paris is now a toilet like San Francisco, except worse, the filth on the street and the roving gangs of violent foreigners.

 

Any subsidized healthcare they have is directly and indirectly funded by our tax dollars since they don't pay their share of NATO.

 

Have you considered moving there?

😂  The crazy train has left the station. Health care is a lot cheaper when you take the excess profit takers, the ones who don't provide care, out of the system.

 

In the US most of our Hospitals are owned by big for profit corporations that have monopolies in most of the markets they service. That translates to monopoly pricing.  Then we have Insurance companies and pharmacy benefits management companies.  These folks do nothing other than push paperwork in exchange for a huge cut of everyone's illness or injury. 


It is time we leave behind the ghoulish notion that every time a person gets sick or suffers an injury it is an opportunity to jump on them like a pack of jackals fighting for a scrap of meat in search of big paydays for everyone in the treatment chain.

 

Edited on Feb 24, 2025 3:30am

This is why RFK Jr. is an excellent choice.  It's time Pharma lost its rubber stamp of approvals and has to do real studies on efficacy and safety.  Additionally, fixing people's health from food, exercise and lifestyle changes will become a priority vs doctors simply looking through their pharmacology for the right pill for treatment in every situation.  

 

Prescriptions have become Big Pharma subscriptions with kickbacks to doctors and even veterinarians.  

Yes, pharmaceuticals are in most cases life saving and safe, but fixing the underlying issues are key versus just treating the symptoms.  

Edited on Feb 24, 2025 4:01am
Originally posted by: Inigo Montoya

This is why RFK Jr. is an excellent choice.  It's time Pharma lost its rubber stamp of approvals and has to do real studies on efficacy and safety.  Additionally, fixing people's health from food, exercise and lifestyle changes will become a priority vs doctors simply looking through their pharmacology for the right pill for treatment in every situation.  

 

Prescriptions have become Big Pharma subscriptions with kickbacks to doctors and even veterinarians.  

Yes, pharmaceuticals are in most cases life saving and safe, but fixing the underlying issues are key versus just treating the symptoms.  


How's he going to review any Food and Drugs  when he and the Musk rats are getting rid of all the employees?    

Originally posted by: David Miller

  Healthcare is secondary to profit for healthcare providers. Presently to satisfy the greed of providers, the only touted - dumbass - solution Democrats champion is to force tax payers to pay more in taxes to create Universal Healthcare for everyone. The pitfalls of this stupidity are well known - poor care, months long waiting to get care - all the while having those who choose and live a healthy lifestyle being burdened and paying for the healthcare for those who make themselves sick by the life choices they make. This is no different than the premiums every vehicle driver pays for car insurance - insured drivers pay ever increasing  premiums for the uninsured.


Its called group insurance.  Health, auto, we all share.  I've never given birth but my premiums have gone to paying for all those who have.  I'm a careful driver but I pay for those who aren't or just remain uninsured and gamble that they won't get stopped and asked for their registration and license.  And what the heck, they still get away with it.  But private insurance is mega-expensive.

 

I've been tempted to opt out of group and negotiate with providers if I write them a check each time, but I'm to much of a fraidy cat to try it. 

 

I know someone who IMHO is scamming the system (can't prove it, wouldn't try) by being so unable to work (a joke, again IMO) that they get their health care (and dental!) pretty much for free.  Why don't we all pull that off?  But I can't say I fully understand all the ins and outs of the systems, so I just go on being the solid citizen who obeys laws, is insurance-poor, so to speak, so I won't have to trouble anyone else to take care of me.

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