Trump invades Venezuela with ground troops

Originally posted by: Boilerman

China, a country that wants World domination, wants control of Venezualsa.  Either we stop this or we don't stop this.   BTY, I learned some interesting information after the attack that you didin't.


If Venezuela requests our assistance, we can decide to help them or not. If they don't, their relationship with China is their business.

 

Do you truly not understand that?

 

Oh and just as an aside, the Turdiff trade war has done far more to make China the dominant world power than any military or diplomatic actions could ever do. Just wanted to mention that, since you apparently hate them heathen Chinee. 

Originally posted by: Boilerman

China, a country that wants World domination, wants control of Venezualsa.  Either we stop this or we don't stop this.   BTY, I learned some interesting information after the attack that you didin't.


Perhaps a noble pursuit. But one that must be done while following the Constitution, not ignoring it. For too long, the executive branch on both sides of the aisle have been ignoring the Constitution when it comes to military conflicts. 

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

When has a Democratic president ever invaded another country with whom the US was NOT at war and kidnapped its leader?


No, when you claimed unconstitutional situations.  Only yapping towards Republicans 

Originally posted by: Boilerman

No, when you claimed unconstitutional situations.  Only yapping towards Republicans 


You do realize that what you just said makes no sense, right? Please rephrase in English.


Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

Perhaps a noble pursuit. But one that must be done while following the Constitution, not ignoring it. For too long, the executive branch on both sides of the aisle have been ignoring the Constitution when it comes to military conflicts. 


It's long overdue for the US to discard the delusion that we're entitled to dictate the course of events in the entire rest of the world. The realization that we could not and should not do that was the direct cause of the election of Ronny Raygun. Disappointed jingoists rejoiced in his proclamations that we were both the strongest and the noblest nation on Earth and that world domination was our birthright. That euphoria didn't last long.

 

That doesn't mean, however, that there aren't a hell of a lot of people out there who still subscribe to the "America uber allen" philosophy. If that belief is strong enough, that leads to excusing illegal and unconstitutional actions. Might makes right, belch grunt snort.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Can you name the Democrat President who declared occupation of another country without Congress?   Because The last two Republican presidents have.  


It was a while ago but in 1915 Woodrow Wilson invaded and occupied Haiti. One year later he invaded and occupied the Dominican Republic. 

 

In the 1990s Clinton didn't have authorization for his actions in Somalia but that doesn't really count as an occupation. 

 

Barack Obama didn't have Congressional approval when he ordered the summary execution of a US Citizen overseas. 

 

Unconstitutional military actions have been perpetrated by both sides of the aisle. 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

It was a while ago but in 1915 Woodrow Wilson invaded and occupied Haiti. One year later he invaded and occupied the Dominican Republic. 

 

In the 1990s Clinton didn't have authorization for his actions in Somalia but that doesn't really count as an occupation. 

 

Barack Obama didn't have Congressional approval when he ordered the summary execution of a US Citizen overseas. 

 

Unconstitutional military actions have been perpetrated by both sides of the aisle. 


I'm strongly suspecting that there was more to that "Obama ordered an execution yada yada" meme than that. In any case, the actions you describe aren't remotely comparable to Trump's invasion and kidnapping.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Someday when America's finances collapse the autopsy will show it was because of expensive foreign occcupations and tax cuts for billionaires.


The $9B fraud in Mn cost more than the State Dept budget, and more than we spent in Venezuela.  And we haven't started investigating the other 49 states 

Yet radio silence from Kevin when a Democrat does the same.

 

Yet no problem when the biden gang put a $25m bounty on maduro.

 

 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/10/world/americas/biden-bounty-nicolas-maduro.html

Originally posted by: tom

The $9B fraud in Mn cost more than the State Dept budget, and more than we spent in Venezuela.  And we haven't started investigating the other 49 states 


The "$9B fraud" was dreamed up by ONE 23-year-old YouTube influencer who has been making MAGA-bait videos for about four years. His claims were nonsensical, clumsy fakery, but he got lucky and somehow Trump saw them. Now he's making big bucks with all the clickbait.

 

That's it. That's all there is to it. There's no evidence whatsoever to support his claims.

 

Of course, stupid Tom is buying it.

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