Trump lie re SNAP (of course)

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

"Any story sounds true until someone tells the other side and sets the record straight."

                                                                                                             Prov 18:17 (TLB Paraphrased)

 

"The first to speak in court sounds right, until the cross examination begins." 

                                                                                                              Prov 18:17 (NLT)

 

"He that is first in his own cause seemeth just; but his neighbor cometh and searcheth him."

                                                                                                              Prov 18:17 (King James Translation)                                

Point: When something is said by one person, it it may sound right, but as Solomon advises us, we need to hear both sides before rendering a decision.  Give it due diligence.  There might be some alternative ways to think.

 

Who among us has not regretted a snap (no pun intended) judgement or action, or statement, especially when unrelenting bias is present?

 

Candy


What do you mean, Candy? That actually happened here --the SNAP payments and the rush to spend them before they were rescinded. Of course it only happened in blue states, for obvious reasons.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

What do you mean, Candy? That actually happened here --the SNAP payments and the rush to spend them before they were rescinded. Of course it only happened in blue states, for obvious reasons.


That is one modern day example, Kevin, and a good one.  I think also in red states as well.  The rapid fire transmission of 'information', right or wrong.  Good or bad outcomes.

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

That is one modern day example, Kevin, and a good one.  I think also in red states as well.  The rapid fire transmission of 'information', right or wrong.  Good or bad outcomes.


There was a two-hour time window between the court order forcing Trump to pay full SNAP benefits and the granting of his "emergency" petition to be able to continue starving people. The blue states were poised to distribute the benefits the moment the court made its decision. The red states paused and trembled in fear, waiting for approval from their orange master.

 

As you say, everyone who isn't terribly isolated would have known about the decision pretty much instantaneously. Therefore, the red states could have done what the blue states did and immediately paid out the SNAP benefits. It would have been impossible to "undo," regardless of what the asshole DoA ordered.

 

Therefore, the priorities were starkly clear. The blue states care about their residents and seized the opportunity to give them the benefits they were owed. The red states did nothing, awaiting the sacred permission of Emperor Trump (and he ordered them to not pay out the benefits). So if you live in a blue state, people won't starve; if you live in a red state, they will.

 

Pretty drastic difference, eh?

That's ridiculous, Kevin, speaking of "states" as if every human inhabitant of every state thinks alike and acts accordingly, like robots.  


Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

That's ridiculous, Kevin, speaking of "states" as if every human inhabitant of every state thinks alike and acts accordingly, like robots.  


I refer to the governments of those states, which in theory at least, reflect the collective will of their people. Doubtless, there are red state residents who want to see people get food and medical care; there are blue state residents who want to see people starve and die. But in terms of whether a given state rushed to bestow SNAP benefits or paused, trembling, waiting for Emperor Trump's permission--the smallest fungible unit is the state government. However many people there are in a given state, ONE decision for that state was made.

 

I speak of states because the SNAP decisions were made at that level. Here in Oregon and elsewhere, the state government had to have been poised to instantly react to the court decision. That they did so, and the red states didn't, underscores a fundamental difference in their governments--and given that those governments were elected, a fundamental difference in their people, collectively, of course.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

I refer to the governments of those states, which in theory at least, reflect the collective will of their people. Doubtless, there are red state residents who want to see people get food and medical care; there are blue state residents who want to see people starve and die. But in terms of whether a given state rushed to bestow SNAP benefits or paused, trembling, waiting for Emperor Trump's permission--the smallest fungible unit is the state government. However many people there are in a given state, ONE decision for that state was made.

 

I speak of states because the SNAP decisions were made at that level. Here in Oregon and elsewhere, the state government had to have been poised to instantly react to the court decision. That they did so, and the red states didn't, underscores a fundamental difference in their governments--and given that those governments were elected, a fundamental difference in their people, collectively, of course.


 Imagine, if the corrupt Screwmer led DemocRATs had opened the government weeks ago, none of this would have happened.This is what happens to Americans and America whenever the DemocRATs have an opportunity to block legislation that would benefit America.  Trump scores victory as Supreme Court halts judge's order on food benefits -- The Supreme Court on Tuesday agreed to extend its temporary stay of a lower court order that the Trump administration immediately pay the full Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits for the month of November, delivering a near-term win to the administration, just hours after it appealed the matter to the high court for emergency intervention. Trump officials had urged the Supreme Court in a supplemental brief Monday afternoon to keep in place an emergency stay handed down by Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson last week. The new action keeps the stay in place through 11:59 p.m. on Thursday, Nov. 13. U.S. Solicitor General D. John Sauer had asked the Supreme Court Monday to grant an emergency stay ordering them to resume full SNAP payments before the end of the government shutdown in Congress In appealing the case, Trump's legal team had argued that the lower court judges overstepped their powers, and urged the Supreme Court to keep in place an emergency stay handed down late last week by Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson. They cited the progress Congress has made toward resolving the ongoing shutdown, and added that, in their view, "the answer to this crisis is not for federal courts to reallocate resources without lawful authority." "The only way to end this crisis — which the Executive is adamant to end — is for Congress to reopen the government," they added. -- https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-issues-emergency-snap-ruling-impacting-millions

So the republicans did nothing to shut down the government, and again did nothing to reopen it.  So why is it they are responsible for the shurdown.  Maybe I am missing something, but seems to me that the dems own this completely and everyone can see it, and that is why they are mad at Chuck Shumer

Originally posted by: Brent Kline

So the republicans did nothing to shut down the government, and again did nothing to reopen it.  So why is it they are responsible for the shurdown.  Maybe I am missing something, but seems to me that the dems own this completely and everyone can see it, and that is why they are mad at Chuck Shumer


Liberals will kill if you don't agree with their position, so what's a few million starving kids to them?   Just leverage.

Originally posted by: Brent Kline

So the republicans did nothing to shut down the government, and again did nothing to reopen it.  So why is it they are responsible for the shurdown.  Maybe I am missing something, but seems to me that the dems own this completely and everyone can see it, and that is why they are mad at Chuck Shumer


Well, let's examine a moment in history:

 

Adolf Hitler blamed the Poles for starting WWII because he demanded that they allow him to annex their country and they refused.

 

They could have avoided it by surrendering,!!!

 

The Republipigs could have avoided the shutdown by agreeing to compromise on health care. Not compromising--agreeing to compromise.

 

But they've had a stick up their butts over Obamacare for over a decade. So whose fault is it if one side makes a unilateral demand and refuses to negotiate?

Originally posted by: Inigo Montoya

Liberals will kill if you don't agree with their position, so what's a few million starving kids to them?   Just leverage.


Trump could have funded SNAP, but he chose not to. Additionally, he's going to the Supreme Court not to fund it. Odd that you completely missed that.

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