Trump off the ballot in Colorado...

Originally posted by: tom

You can't remove him based on an accusation that has never been proven. 

Under that logic states can remove Biden for not protecting the border. It goes to show terrified the Democrats are that Trump could win. 

This is a slippery slope & result in states playing tit for tat. Let the people decide. 


The court found that Trump engaged in insurrection based upon the evidence presented. 

 

 It doesn't show anything other than Trump betrayed his country. Some of us actually belive in following the constitution.  

 

The two things are not even REMOTELY equivalent.

 

There is no mandate, Constitutional or otherwise, for the President to kill everyone trying to cross the border that Tom doesn't like. What exactly is "the immigration law" Biden is supposed to enforce?

 

And stupid Tommie-poo...are you really saying that Trump did not foment an insurrection?

 

Are you THAT willing to sacrifice your last shred of morality to defend that awful fuck?

 

Stupid Tommie-poo.

Edited on Dec 19, 2023 7:41pm

You don't need to be guilty of a crime to be disqualified for president according to the Constituion,   For example, It's not a a crime to be an immigrant from France - but that disqualifies you from being president of the United States.....same thing for people who instruct the VP to decertify the election.

Edited on Dec 19, 2023 8:41pm
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

The best part is Neil Gorsuch is on record saying Colorado has the right to determine its own laws regarding who is on the ballot.  They quoted him in the ruling from when he was a Colorado judge.

 

So just imagine the hypocrisy when he rules against the Colorado Court when this goes before him in the Supreme Court.    Not that hypocrisy is a problem for him.  But it will show the voters another example of the over the  Federalsit Society judges who are corrupting our highest court.

 

 


 

 

 


You don't need to be guilty of a crime to be disqualified for president according to the Constituion

 

Where does it say that?

 

 

Originally posted by: tom

You don't need to be guilty of a crime to be disqualified for president according to the Constituion

 

Where does it say that?

 

 


That is the wrong question. The question is where does it say you do?  Trump tried to overthrow the United States Government that is the bottom line.

That is only an opinion held by a few.  Even the 7 democrats on the court couldn't agree on this.  Trump has not been convicted or even charged in this allegation.

 

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

 

An officer of the United States is Under the Appointments Clause of the Constitution, the principal officers of the U.S., such as federal judges, ambassadors, and "public Ministers" (Cabinet members) are appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate, but Congress may vest the appointment of inferior officers to the president, courts, or federal department heads. Civilian officers of the U.S. are entitled to preface their names with the honorific style "the Honorable" for life, but this rarely occurs. Officers of the U.S. should not be confused with employees of the U.S.; the latter are more numerous and lack the special legal authority of the former.

 

Nowhere in this amendment is the president or a candidate for president mentioned.

 

150 Confederates served in congress after this amendment was passed

Edited on Dec 20, 2023 8:09am

The President is an officer of the United States.  The 14th amendment uses a different definition. It explicitly cites state and Federal elected officials. The appointment clause deals with the President's power of appointment.   That is what type of official he or she can appoint.  

 

 

The President is an officer of the United States

 

See above.  The Apportionmentsclause defines officers,.

 

It explicitly cites state and Federal elected officials. 

 

No it doesn't.  It says Senator & Representative.

 

As I said earlier going forward this could be twisted into any reason to exclude any candidate, (such as a president not following immigration law or not protecting the United States).

 

Better off letting the people decide.

 

 

 

 

Neil Gorsuch doesnt  agree with you, Tom.     
this isn't even a federal constitutional question.   The states have the right to decide who is on their ballot by their own laws.  Kinda like abortion.   Ain't state's rights great?      

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