Trump tariffs and world trade

Originally posted by: Nines

@PJ...

OK. Post an abbreviated listing of the DSA's newest overall platform. As you commented earlier regarding my traditionally conservative stances, I don't know how much agreement we'll eventually arrive at on these DSA tenets. But I'm willing to address the major points. I'd just keep my expectations within perceived natural boundaries. Who knows, we both might learn..something? 


I think the real question is not whether you agree with their tenets--you don't--but the extent to which the general public views their tenets, considered individually, as mainstream/popular or radical liberal liberal radical left-wing extremist SOOOOOOOOCIALISM and their proponents should be hunted down like dogs.

 

You paint the DSA as a loony-bird extremist organization. But you're viewing that through the distantly far-right funhouse mirror of MAGA, so your opinions are suspect. So yeah, why not list the most frequently stated tenets of DSA and see if you think they're radical liberal liberal radical or popular with the great unwashed masses.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

I think the real question is not whether you agree with their tenets--you don't--but the extent to which the general public views their tenets, considered individually, as mainstream/popular or radical liberal liberal radical left-wing extremist SOOOOOOOOCIALISM and their proponents should be hunted down like dogs.

 

You paint the DSA as a loony-bird extremist organization. But you're viewing that through the distantly far-right funhouse mirror of MAGA, so your opinions are suspect. So yeah, why not list the most frequently stated tenets of DSA and see if you think they're radical liberal liberal radical or popular with the great unwashed masses.


Whatever..go to Cuba.

So it's ALL the USA's fault, that oppression Cuba has been under for decades? It's not one iota due to their authoritarian political / economic system/s and leadership? Fine. I didn't distort a damned thing you said. You claimed it was an example of a successful socialistic state. I disputed that and still do. As it always seems to devolve to, I'm done with you and your quite manipulative gaslighting and CYA methods ( blame it all on something else besides what's plainly visible in front of you; alter present history as it progresses).  

Edited on Jul 26, 2026 12:52pm
Originally posted by: Nines

So it's ALL the USA's fault, that oppression Cuba has been under for decades? It's not one iota due to their authoritarian political / economic system/s and leadership? Fine. I didn't distort a damned thing you said. You claimed it was an example of a successful socialistic state. I disputed that and still do. As it always seems to devolve to, I'm done with you and your quite manipulative gaslighting and CYA methods ( blame it all on something else besides what's plainly visible in front of you; alter present history as it progresses).  


Since you have your own private definition of "successful,," any discussion thereof is a non-starter. And your incurable MAGA anger and rugged individualist ideology means we're unlikely to agree on much or that we'll be able to discuss anything civilly or rationally.

 

The tenets you hold so dear--conservatism, rugged individualism, and American exceptionalism--are all fundamental contradictions to the human condition. But what's that compared to the testosterone rush? Hey, I understand.


Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Since you have your own private definition of "successful,," any discussion thereof is a non-starter. And your incurable MAGA anger and rugged individualist ideology means we're unlikely to agree on much or that we'll be able to discuss anything civilly or rationally.

 

The tenets you hold so dear--conservatism, rugged individualism, and American exceptionalism--are all fundamental contradictions to the human condition. But what's that compared to the testosterone rush? Hey, I understand.


No, the mindset has zero to do with endogenous anabolic / steroid hormones.. or rutabagas. Your analytic skills are atrocious, judgemental, and often wrong. Yet, you're correct regarding the degree of our issue disagreement. One out of ten is  your normal batting average. But by all means keep swingin.

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