Originally posted by: Nines
Your denials are false equivalents..but you're too blindfolded to see it, Bartholomew. And call somebody else stupid; once again, any / all who disagree with your position is stupid. That's warped. Take a pill..or get your pampiniform plexus irradiated.
No, I called your argument stupid. Whether you're stupid or not depends on how much and how long you cling to it.
Originally posted by: tom
Last week harris and her gang called Trump a fascist & and a nazi. Democrats have been calling Republcans fascists since the 1970s
If you have fascist beleifs and want to enact fascist policies that makes you a fascist. That's not name calling. It is the truth. If you think Nazis can be very fine people, you often invoke eugenics in your speeches and you want your generals to be more like Hilter's, you are a Nazi.
The funny/sad thing is the comments dont even make the top 10 list of most vile remarks he and his campaign have made since coming down the escalator in 2016.
Its not going to move the needle.
I honestly dont even judge him anymore. Its the "so-called" Christians that see him as some kind of prophet of God. Thats the real island of garbage in this country.
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh
The funny/sad thing is the comments dont even make the top 10 list of most vile remarks he and his campaign have made since coming down the escalator in 2016.
Its not going to move the needle.
I honestly dont even judge him anymore. Its the "so-called" Christians that see him as some kind of prophet of God. Thats the real island of garbage in this country.
I disagree with you about it not moving the needle for one reason. In the past 24 hours the major media has been using the word racist when talking about the rally and participants. It's all little late, but I think it reached a tipping point.
At least for the next week, I think we'll start hearing about racism instead of "racially charged" and other euphemisms.
Originally posted by: MisterPicture
I disagree with you about it not moving the needle for one reason. In the past 24 hours the major media has been using the word racist when talking about the rally and participants. It's all little late, but I think it reached a tipping point.
At least for the next week, I think we'll start hearing about racism instead of "racially charged" and other euphemisms.
But how many voters will change their minds about Trump after hearing/seeing this? Ten? Twelve?
Also keep in mind that Trump's crude racism is the reason many people vote FOR him. All around us are stupid, selfish, evil people. They're voting to snuff out democracy, and they may very well succeed. Messages of hate are siren songs for them.
And then there are all the people still whining about the price of radishes, who would vote for Trump just because he promises to magically fix it.
Yes I suspect it will not move the needle at all with liberals named Kevin who live in Oregon. So much for those living in KevinWorld
But there are about 450,000 Puerto Rican voters in Pennsylvania. In the past when they heard Trump make anti-Latino remarks, they could tell themselves he wasn't talking about them, he was just talking about illegal aliens.
But there's no such thing as Puerto Rican illegal immigrants, are there? So the racism is undeniable. And now you have the president of the Puerto Rican Republican party threatening to unendorse Trump, and the Archbishop of PR denouncing him.
The Bad Bunny endorsement is monstrous, since he is already a respected voice in PR politics. Add to that Jennifer Lopez, Ricky Martin, and even Geraldo Rivera. That was Trump's worst night yet, and all it has to do is move the needle 1% in PA.
And there's this from politico: Puerto Rico: Trump’s Puerto Rico fallout is ‘spreading like wildfire’ in Pennsylvania
Originally posted by: MisterPicture
Yes I suspect it will not move the needle at all with liberals named Kevin who live in Oregon. So much for those living in KevinWorld
But there are about 450,000 Puerto Rican voters in Pennsylvania. In the past when they heard Trump make anti-Latino remarks, they could tell themselves he wasn't talking about them, he was just talking about illegal aliens.
But there's no such thing as Puerto Rican illegal immigrants, are there? So the racism is undeniable. And now you have the president of the Puerto Rican Republican party threatening to unendorse Trump, and the Archbishop of PR denouncing him.
The Bad Bunny endorsement is monstrous, since he is already a respected voice in PR politics. Add to that Jennifer Lopez, Ricky Martin, and even Geraldo Rivera. That was Trump's worst night yet, and all it has to do is move the needle 1% in PA.
And there's this from politico: Puerto Rico: Trump’s Puerto Rico fallout is ‘spreading like wildfire’ in Pennsylvania
Believe it or not, we have a major infestation of conservatives in Oregon. Outside of Portland/Salem/Eugene (i.e., the Willamette Valley), Oregon is red red red red red. Thank God, they don't have very much power--but we do have congressional districts that can go/have gone MAGApig.
But you're right. Trump was never going to win this state. So he can do or say anything and not affect his chances here one bit. But does it matter in Pennsylvania? Kind of hard to say. First of all, Harris IS slightly ahead in PA. So if Trump's spew makes him lose by more than he was going to, that doesn't really affect the result--maybe he loses by 100,000 instead of 50,000 votes.
Let's take a look at those 450,000 PR voters. Let's assume that, say, 3/4 of them haven't already cast their ballots. So we have about 315,000 voters whose decision would be affected by the Turd's recent performance. Let's say that they were 50/50. That's 157,500 Trump voters. How many of them have said/will say:
"I was going to vote for Trump, but because of a horrible joke one of the speakers at his rally told, I'm going to vote for Harris instead."?
Three. Maybe four.
Keep in mind that EVERY SINGLE Trump voter has no good reason to vote for him--yet, they have voted for him and plan to do so again. He's said that he hates Hispanics dozens of times and dozens of different ways. That hasn't hurt him at all. Keep in mind that a Trump voter is already an unprincipled stupid asshole. You and I are outraged by Trump's filth. But are those unprincipled stupid assholes outraged?
I don't see it.
I honestly don't know what might or would change a Trumper's mind. But I do know that yet another episode of awful behavior by the Turd won't make even the tiniest impression.
Today Trump is doing his "I dont know him" song and dance. He's got a pretty big list of staff he doesnt know. Ask Michael Cohen.
On Tuesday, Trump told ABC News' Rachel Scott, "I don't know him. Someone put him up there. I don't know who he is."
To clarify; it is ok for the vp to call a presidential candidate a Nazi every day is ok, but for a no name comedian to make 1 joke about Puerto Ricans is bad.
Originally posted by: tom
To clarify; it is ok for the vp to call a presidential candidate a Nazi every day is ok, but for a no name comedian to make 1 joke about Puerto Ricans is bad.
Thats correct. And to further clarify - both candidates have referred to the other as fascists.
Of course only one candidate is on record longing for generals like what Hitler had.
Between the Hatians in Ohio and Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania....it sure seems like Donny Goose-step is doing everything he can think of to limit his vote to male, white Christians.
