The Turd Show--same old same old

The flaw in your argument is that you had a third choice--not voting--which you selected, and that was almost as bad as voting for Trump.

In retrospect, after seeing the horror show of the Turd presidency, do you wish you had voted for Clinton?

You know what sickens me the most?  It is just watching these zombies at (what will be) both party conventions in attendance and thinking it is the greatest thing the world to be at.  (posting on Facebook the next day, etc.)  Nodding their heads and cheering when both candidates are lying like 75% of the time or don't even know what the hell they are talking about.  

I'm just fed up with it.  

It's an idiot party, and everybody there has shelled out big bucks and probably killed their vacations to be there. So they dance and hoot and cheer and masturbate. If they can still afford beer, they drink (I wonder what the vendors at the RNC charged).

I still resist your false equivalence argument, though. There's bullshit at both conventions, but at the RNC, there's more bullshit than there is water in the ocean.

I dont understand the concept of voting for a person.  I vote for policy.    I remember in the 2000 election there was a much cited poll asking people which candidate they would rather have a beer with.  And everyone overwhelmingly said George Bush because Al Gore was a boring stick in the mud.     But you're not going to have a beer with either candidate....and even if you did what the hell does that have to do with their plan for AMerica?

Same thing with people who say they dont like either candidate right now.  The flawed  candidates you dont like offer polar oppositte views on very important issues that will have very different outcomes in the near future......like their stance on  NATO, Ukraine, tax policy, immigration, women's health, IRS staffing,  Social Security and energy policy....and adding another SUpreme Court Justice (or 2)    Maybe you dont like either candidate - fine.   But I'm voting on those issues.   What are you basing your vote on?  

Its fine to say you dont like either guy...but its untrue to say they both lead to the same place.    Biden or Trump will take you to very different places.   You should vote for the place you like better regardless of how much you like or dont like the candidate that will take you there.

American politics, with the interblab at the forefront, now more than ever, depends on personalities, appearance, and charisma or lack thereof. The public first decides whether they like the person, then they decide whether they really really like the person, and...somewhere in distant third place, they decide whether they like what he/she says they're going to do.

You're right, of course, that personalities don't matter; what the candidate is going to DO is all that matters. But how many people think the way you do? 10%? 5%? How many anti-Bideners really consider what policies will be continued/enacted should he be reelected? How many pro-Trumpers think about or even realize what Trump will do if reelected?

Just to give you one example--I'm sure that there are millions of people bitching about high home mortgage interest rates. How many of those people realize that those high rates are a direct result of the Trump tax giveaways? The reduced revenue created huge deficits, which forced the government to borrow--thus competing with private borrowers for a finite pool of lending capital, and raising interest rates as a result. I've read that the difference in prime mortgage rates as a result is over 1%--which translates to an extra $250 a month on a $300,000 mortgage. And Trump says he plans to not only renew but also greatly increase those corporate tax giveaways.

How many Trumpers do you think even consider that while they cheer for their Strong Leader?

Good points.  

Kevin, I saw the after-party for the debate with Jill and Joe.  It is not "false equivalence."

I was referring to the bullshit level. Are you really saying that Trump's and Biden's bullshit levels are equivalent??

Also, since PJ would like us to focus on policies and not personalities, whose platform do you prefer? They're definitely not equivalent.