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Originally posted by: tom

So if one becomes Speaker Of The House and both the President and Vice President resign then the House Speaker becomes President.

 

 

This wouldn't happen as a president is limited to 10 years.

 

Twenty-second Amendment to the United States Constitution -  The 22nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution limits a person to two elected terms as President, establishing a maximum of ten years in office under certain conditions.


Let's take a look at the text:

 

"No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once......"(My emphasis)

 

Notice it doesn't say "serve" it doesn't say "obtains the office" it says "elected". If one becomes president through the presidential line of secession is that an election? 

 

Are the terms "elected" and "served" legally distinguishable? I believe they are. 

 

Would this violate the spirit of the Constitution? Almost certainly. Does it fall technically within the letter of the Constitution? Almost certainly. 

 

 

Originally posted by: David Miller

 Just how do you know SCOTUS will allow it?  Are you posting this as a statement of fact - or as speculation? If factual, please provide your source.


The source is that six SCOTUS judges are Trump lackeys and so far, have allowed him to do whatever he wants, even in violation of the Constitution.

 

Obviously, since I'm talking about a future event, I'm saying what WILL happen IF Trump tries for a third term. He may not, despite his repeated barfing out of his desire for that and a MAGA member of the House crafting a bill to allow it.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

The source is that six SCOTUS judges are Trump lackeys and so far, have allowed him to do whatever he wants, even in violation of the Constitution.

 

Obviously, since I'm talking about a future event, I'm saying what WILL happen IF Trump tries for a third term. He may not, despite his repeated barfing out of his desire for that and a MAGA member of the House crafting a bill to allow it.


       I appreciate you taking the time to clarify what you said. 

Originally posted by: tom

So if one becomes Speaker Of The House and both the President and Vice President resign then the House Speaker becomes President.

 

 

This wouldn't happen as a president is limited to 10 years.

 

Twenty-second Amendment to the United States Constitution -  The 22nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution limits a person to two elected terms as President, establishing a maximum of ten years in office under certain conditions.


Google is not the law of the land.

 

The 22nd Amendment does NOT say that a President may not serve more than ten years. It restricts how many times he can be ELECTED. 

 

Big difference, though beyond Tom.


A President can't serve more than 8 years.  Two 4 year elected terms,  or if they were Vice President and ascended to President,  they finish that term and can be elected one more time.   

 

For instance,  if Trump passes away,  Vance finishes the term and could only be elected one time. 

If the president passes away with less than 2 years remaining the vp can be reelected.  If the president passes with more than 2 years, the vp can only relected once more.

 

This is very simple; nobody can serve more than 10 years.  President Trump is done after 2028.

Originally posted by: tom

If the president passes away with less than 2 years remaining the vp can be reelected.  If the president passes with more than 2 years, the vp can only relected once more.

 

This is very simple; nobody can serve more than 10 years.  President Trump is done after 2028.


I quoted the text of the relevant portion of the amendment above. Please show me where it says "serve." 

 

To be clear I'm not saying it would happen. I'm just saying constitutionally it could. 

Originally posted by: Edso

A President can't serve more than 8 years.  Two 4 year elected terms,  or if they were Vice President and ascended to President,  they finish that term and can be elected one more time.   

 

For instance,  if Trump passes away,  Vance finishes the term and could only be elected one time. 


That would depend on when it happened. If Vance assumed two years or more of Trump's term, he could only be elected once. If he assumed a shorter time, he could still be elected twice.

 

Tom got confused by this when he claimed that this meant that no President could serve more than ten years. Not true. A President can't be elected more than twice. But there are other ways he could wind up back in office even after having be n elected to and served two full terms (plus a partial term, as above).

 

The simplest ways would be for such a person to be named Speaker of the House, or to be named/elected Vice President.

 

For example: Vance wins the Presidency in 2028. His VP is Marco Rubio. Vance murders Rubio and appoints Trump as VP. Vance, as previously agreed, resigns. Trump is Prez for the next four years.

 

A similar scenario could take place if Trump is named House Speaker and he murders Vance and Rubio.

 

This could in fact happen multiple consecutive times. There is no Constitutional limit on UNELECTED terms.

Originally posted by: tom

If the president passes away with less than 2 years remaining the vp can be reelected.  If the president passes with more than 2 years, the vp can only relected once more.

 

This is very simple; nobody can serve more than 10 years.  President Trump is done after 2028.


So according to my senario above, we are on the same page.  Right, Tom?  If Trump passed away tomorrow, Vance would finish up this term, which is more than two years, and could be elected just once. 

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

That would depend on when it happened. If Vance assumed two years or more of Trump's term, he could only be elected once. If he assumed a shorter time, he could still be elected twice.

 

Tom got confused by this when he claimed that this meant that no President could serve more than ten years. Not true. A President can't be elected more than twice. But there are other ways he could wind up back in office even after having be n elected to and served two full terms (plus a partial term, as above).

 

The simplest ways would be for such a person to be named Speaker of the House, or to be named/elected Vice President.

 

For example: Vance wins the Presidency in 2028. His VP is Marco Rubio. Vance murders Rubio and appoints Trump as VP. Vance, as previously agreed, resigns. Trump is Prez for the next four years.

 

A similar scenario could take place if Trump is named House Speaker and he murders Vance and Rubio.

 

This could in fact happen multiple consecutive times. There is no Constitutional limit on UNELECTED terms.


I respectfully disagree with your take on this.  This can't and won't happen.  Any President, elected, or appointed, can only serve up to 10 years total, provided they serve just two years for a President that has died and then are elected and reelected.   There is no way the Supreme Court or the States will allow this to happen.   You would have to change the Constitution and that ain't easy.  

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