US Customs and Immigration Enforcement (ICE) revealed that over 650,000 migrants with criminal histories were let loose in the United States between 'mid-May 2023 through the end of July 2024.'

Cost compared to what? By what metric?

One factor that you MAGAs NEVER--as in never, never, never--take into account is the BENEFIT of the current border situation--you all call it a "crisis," "open borders," blah blah blah. The benefit is trade and the relative ease of crossing--half a million people a day cross the border. The results are commerce and social/cultural interaction--and don't underestimate the value of the latter!

If we turn the border into an alligator-filled moat, we lose some large part of the above benefits. You MAGAs can't deny that, so all you can do is belittle and minimize it. They're all criminals and rapists anyway. Fentanyl. Every one of them has his underwear stuffed full of fentanyl. They're coming here to open up taco trucls and deprive hard-working Americans of their jobs. My dream of picking kiwi fruit in the 100-degree sun for $8.50 an hour has been shattered. WAAAH!

I'll agree that the Republicans have fucked up the border situation as well over the long haul.

But to what extent do you agree with the MAGA position that THAR AR TRILLYUNS O' ILLEGULS A'FLOODIN 'CROSS DA BORDUR EVERY SEKUND?

In other words, is this a problem or an excuse for a mega-freakout and the spending of hundreds of billions of dollars?

How do you feel about brown people? Do you believe that when a migrant comes to the US, he/she "takes someone's job"?

 Quit with your lying shit. 

You keep telling us that Trump won the 2020 election. You have no standing to call anyone else a liar.

Also, you're a filthy little coward.

dedicated 83% of its funding to foreign wars

of the 17% funding, $2.3B went to far-left NGOs to ship in foreigners 

locked in TPS determinations as unreviewable 

gave far-left DC circuit original jurisdiction on all immigration matters

Not a good bill.

Republicans passed the 83% foreign war money on its own feet.   Thats wasnt an issue for them.   The border security was something they could not abide.....even as they complain about it.

You prefer the status quo over more border agents, more contraband checking, harder assylum status....because you dont like the court that oversees the process......or money for cities harboring immigrants?    Wow.  Talk about nitpicky.   But   At least you answered.    

The title of this post is just another falsehood perpetulated by Trump and the 82% of his supporters who agreed with his neo-nazi statement pertaining to illegal immigrants.  As indicated in the article that I will post, this number includes those who entered the country over the past 40 years.  It includes those who entered during the Trump administration.  Also, it includes those who are still imprisoned.  A spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees ICE, said in a Saturday email: “The data in this letter is being misinterpreted. The data goes back decades; it includes individuals who entered the country over the past 40 years or more, the vast majority of whose custody determination was made long before this Administration. It also includes many who are under the jurisdiction or currently incarcerated by federal, state or local law enforcement partners.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/29/politics/fact-check-trump-harris-immigrants-homicide/index.html

Back to your hillbilly vernacular usage? Why? Impressive for / to whom? I mean, whom are you most attempting to insult ? Do you just dislike Southerners..maybe all rurally-oriented folks? FYI, there are some educated conservatives who can spell and use proper contextual language and grammar.  You judge and assign blame to anybody that disagrees with your positions

Yeah, the border is a problem and the allowable daily average encounters outlined in the failed bill before any changes are enacted / enforced are woefully inadequate and my main gripe. That's about the 4th time I've stated my opinion on that within this thread..maybe write it down or something. Your disagreement is noted..doesn't change either position. Your stance is your stance..go for it.

I have no problem whatsoever with brown or any other ethnic group; and I don't have any problem whatsoever with legal and controlled  immigration and for those individuals attempting to better their situations.. The current situation is a well-lubed , free-wheeling turnstile..and you still can't provide a cost for it all can you? You made the statement above " and the spending of hundreds of billions of dollars" to correct the border; what do you think is being spent right now at and beyond the border's reach? You minimize the taxpayer costs of the current border situation; at least 60% of the voting population ( depending on which ridiculous poll) wants immigration addressed. Further the Dems ( Kamala included) have flip-flopped on this immigration issue of late, indicating they will now acknowledge and address the border situation if elected. Has your position changed due to political expediency, too? Apparently not.                                                                                                                                              

Just vote for Kamala and be done with it..you have my blessing with that. Make a choice.

I realize that there are some educated conservatives in the US, who can think and talk coherently and use complete sentences. By coincidence, I know all three of them.

While your anti-immigrant stance is more nuanced than most, it's still based on a core and fundamentally false premise: that immigration is harmful. That's a point you didn't want to address. I don't blame you.

And I'm sorry...I hate racial and all other types of discrimination. That's what's at the core of all the MAGA indignation--would you deny it? And how do you feel about Trump ordering his lackeys to kill the bipartisan border bill?

You, too, can vote for whomever you want. Just realize that if you vote for Trump based on some misconception that he'll "fix the border," that'll be the equivalent of wiping your ass with your ballot.