"We can't allow Black votes to count"

Originally posted by: tom

And Texas started it. Florida, Missouri

 

Illinois, NJ, Ca and NY started it years ago.  Even though New England is 40% Republican, there aren't any Republcan congressman but 21 Democrats.

 

The Republicans are just catching up


In New England, any district that somehow contained a majority of Republican voters would look bizarre, and probably would not even be contiguous. I don't know where any Republican would win, unless you cobbled together some all-rural districts that looked like Rorschach inkblots. And wouldn't that be inherently unfair, to create a district for the sole purpose of making sure a Republican got elected? Isn't that what the Republipigs were bitching about in front of SCOTUS?

 

But aside from that, the differences are that Texas is the first state to gerrymander in the middle of a decade, without waiting for census results, and the first to not bother to ask its voters. The Republicans are so hungry for absolute power, that they couldn't wait until 2030 and sure as hell didn't want to have a voter initiative.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

I didn't mention any poll. Nor did I say that "ALL" white voters thought the way he evidently does. HOWEVER, they consistently elect the type of evil legislators who use their power to stifle the Black vote and/or outright disenfranchise them. And they've been doing that since 1865! Southern whites, for the most part, still hate and loathe Black people and think they should still be slaves. And the Republipigs have gleefully tied into that sentiment, with SCOTUS waving the KKK banner in their recent decision that destroyed the Voting Rights Act.

 

Ain't it convenient that SCOTUS pastes the "racial gerrymandering" label onto majority Black districts, usually urban, and of course in red states, while doing a Pontius Pilate whenever they hear a case about overall egregious gerrymandering, like in Texas? SCOTUS is making no secret of their unwavering fealty to Trump, MAGA, and the Republipig party!

 

The blue wave will definitely happen--historically, the party in the White House almost always loses House seats in the midterms--but its magnitude is yet to be determined. If the Turd war and/or its aftermath is still in play in Novermber, it will be a bloodbath. Ditto if the economy is still in the crapper and gas and food prices are still sky-high. If those things are fixed/go away, then the Republipigs won't get hurt that badly and may retain control of the House; they will probably retain the Senate no matter what.

 

Your observation that "this has been happening" for many years contains an inaccuracy. Texas is the first state to try egregious gerrymandering between censuses. It's also the first state to not bother to ask its voters. The really ridiculous part is MAGA yeeping over California reciprocating, albeit via democratic means (voting!).

 

The Republipigs want to destroy our democracy, and they just may succeed. Texas, for example, has about a 55:45 Republican:Democrat voter ratio, but the new districting means they will have an 8:1 advantage in House seats. That's about as far from democracy as you can get.


Yeah but you did infer all Ala. voters thought the way he did  eg "He surely  stated what all white Alabama voters were thinking!". Further, Texas is not the first state to implement mid-decade redistricting.. so dig deeper into the facts. Mid-decade redistricting is not illegal and is not covered under the Constitution , either. Further, Texas redistricting is carried out solely by their state legislatures ; there is no voter referendum process allowing voters to approve or reject the maps directly. Texas conducted mid-decade redistricting in 2003 which was upheld by the Supreme Court at that time.

In New England, any district that somehow contained a majority of Republican voters would look bizarre

 

How do you know?  Actually Central Mass is fairly conservative. In Ct the area around Danbury moving north to the Mass border is conservative.

 

Maine is conservative enought to have elected a Republican Senator.

 

In NY the legislature is trying to carve up Repubican areas such as StatenIsland/Bay Ridge Brooklyn, Rockland County and Suffolk County

Originally posted by: Nines

Yeah but you did infer all Ala. voters thought the way he did  eg "He surely  stated what all white Alabama voters were thinking!". Further, Texas is not the first state to implement mid-decade redistricting.. so dig deeper into the facts. Mid-decade redistricting is not illegal and is not covered under the Constitution , either. Further, Texas redistricting is carried out solely by their state legislatures ; there is no voter referendum process allowing voters to approve or reject the maps directly. Texas conducted mid-decade redistricting in 2003 which was upheld by the Supreme Court at that time.


That's my point--if the way the voters' votes will be allocated is to be changed, then the voters should be the ones who decide. What Texas did was extremely anti-democratic, which was to be expected, since they're also anti-Democratic. I didn't say it was illegal. Just grossly unethical.

 

As far as Alleybammer goes, well, of course not everyone there thinks the same way, but they have elected pieces of work like Tommy Tuberville and other various white nationalists and bigots. Wasn't that George Wallace's point of origin? Wasn't that where all the MLK stuff happened?

 

So I do believe that a majority of white Alabama voters' thoughts are reflected in the tenor and policies of those they elect. Note that my original post, above, referred to them scurrying to blot out majority-Black districts in time for the coming midterms (and ignoring the illegality of doing so). They're seizing this opportunity to essentially disenfranchise Black voters, so yeah, of course I didn't draw that "inference" from what that jar of toe jam said on the talk show; I drew it from what's happening in the Alabama legislature.


NYS legislature is changing the districts, contradicting Kevin's statement 

Originally posted by: tom

NYS legislature is changing the districts, contradicting Kevin's statement 


What statement is that, stupid Tom? Got a Tom-stat for us? Some Tom-logic?

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