We knew it was coming and here it is. Republicans want to cut your retirement

From Tom, "President Trump called for a 5% cut in dept expenditures."

 

He did ?   Was that before or after he signed the 70 billion dollar spending bill last month?  And he's threatened to shut down the government next year unless Congress pays for his 40 billion dollar wall.   It would seem Tom is having trouble with current events.

 

Regardless - Mitch McConnell and the Republican Congress now have the official position of reducing middle class reitrement benefits as a means to address the fiscal hole they created with their billionaire tax cuts.

 

Is Tom cool with that?

 

Edited on Oct 17, 2018 5:44pm

Blaming current administrations for the stupidity of prior administrations is just fodder for the imbeciles who mouth  off  because current  elected officials have not solved ALL of the issues that were generated by prior Democratic administrations in less than 2 years. The resultant issues caused by Democrats and their socialist mentality has put the U.S. where we are now. Draining the swamp, deporting illegals, building a much needed and necessary wall, enforcing the laws of this nation, putting people to work - ALL of these issues have been stonewalled by self serving leeching Democrats who are traitors to our nation. Vote all of them out. Elect people who care about our nation and not their personal greedy agendas. Mark, P.j. and others who think as they do are what is wrong with today's America - and ALL of you are too ignorant to know it. You make me sick every time I read your idiotic, wrong postings.

sooooo...that would be a yes on your part to cut Medicare and Social Security.

 

Try not to be sick about my postings, doc.   Your Medicare might not pay for it if we have your way.

Still after all of these years, nothing amuses more than when a right-winger gets a knot in his panties.


Actually the spending bill was months ago, but pj  is not known for being accurate. 

 

To understand pj - first he was upset that spending went up & now he is upset to reduce spending. 

 

 

Oh, snap!   

 

I've never objected to spending levels.    I only object to spending that is not paid for.   

 

Republicans not only fail to pay for their spending - but they remove the revenues that pay for other spending already in place.    And Tom thinks thats great because the president called on his cabinet to take  a whopping 5% voluntary reduction in their budgets.    Game changer!

 

Hey, I have no problem having Trump's cabinet stop their corrupt spending binge on personalized pens and soundproof rooms.....but if you think that makes up for the 300 billion added to the deficit  signed by Republicans then you are only rationalizing bad behavior. 

 

What would make up for the hole they created is cutting your retirement benefits.   Tom can't seem to weigh in if he's on board with that or not.  

 

 

Edited on Oct 18, 2018 8:28am
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Oh, snap!   

 

I've never objected to spending levels.    I only object to spending that is not paid for.   

 

Republicans not only fail to pay for their spending - but they remove the revenues that pay for other spending already in place.    And Tom thinks thats great because the president called on his cabinet to take  a whopping 5% voluntary reduction in their budgets.    Game changer!

 

Hey, I have no problem having Trump's cabinet stop their corrupt spending binge on personalized pens and soundproof rooms.....but if you think that makes up for the 300 billion added to the deficit  signed by Republicans then you are only rationalizing bad behavior. 

 

What would make up for the hole they created is cutting your retirement benefits.   Tom can't seem to weigh in if he's on board with that or not.  

 

 


DonDiego would prefer that the Federal Government spend less; in fact, he would prefer that deficits be avoided altogether except under extreme conditions, . . . like fr'instance fighting World War Two is a justifiable reason for deficit spending.

 

 

That said, poor old DonDiego does not understand this post.  

 

How have "the Republicans" "cut" "retirement benefits" ? 

 

Social Security funds are being handled exactly how they have been handled since Social Security came into existence.

 

For information about changes to Social Security DonDiego suggests the interested reader, if any, peruse:  How Social Security Has Changed Over 80 Years .

 

For information on the Social Security Trust Fund DonDiego recommends  The Myth of the Social Security Trust Fund.

 

 

 

 

Oh, its not that hard to understand.

 

I'll direct Don Diego to my original post on this thread which lays out the current Senate Leader's explanation as to why we have deficits...and how that differs from his own non-partisan CBO...and what he believes we should do to fix them.    (Spoiler alert!   Cutting your retirement benefits is involved)

 

 

Edited on Oct 18, 2018 10:59am

Whew !   OK.  DonDiego was worried for a moment there.

 

Poor old DonDiego is about to make a statement and a recommendation:

 

1. The Republicans in Congress are not going to cut Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid payments.

 

2. No one should worry about reductions in Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid payments.

 

n.b. The above proclamations do not address the concept of inflatiion which is often a wondrous "cure" for making financial payments due in the future. 

 

DonDiego recommends the interested reader, if any, take a look at poor old DonDiego's post of 5:33pm on 17 October for enlightenment on the workings of Social Security.  It is going "bankrupt"; . . . any program which pays out more than it takes in will be unable to continue those payments forever legitimately.  (note: "bankrupt" is in quotes because as long as Congress has the will to pay folks money it does not have it can always find a way to do so, . . . especially if not doing so results in losing elections; real bankruptcy only applies to non-Goverment enterprises.)

 

So something will be done before "forever" arrives to insure those expecting "promised payments" get them, . . . even if the programs promising them are incapable of paying them.

 

Oh, and someone will have to pay something someday somehow, . . . but that's a future worry so one need not concern oneself with it.

So how does PJ plan on funding the 70 trillion unfunded deficit, which is over $200,000 per person in this country?

 

 

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