We knew it was coming and here it is. Republicans want to cut your retirement

Originally posted by: tom

People’s retirement should be an individual choice not a government mandate. 

 

 


Of course that is very true, as far as the statement goes.  Then there is reality.

 

Retirement education should begin about age six and continue through high school.  Field trips should bus teens past the slum areas, and past the more affluent areas, with narration of how saving for retirement will make the difference when they become adults buy homes, have kids (and send them to college).   Saving and investment counseling should happen in colleges, trade schools, even GED, mandatory Retirement 101 and 201, no graduation until a passing grade is earned.  Hopefully by then every human who doesn't plan to live on the government's teat will already have a nest egg started.  Graduates will measure job offers by what companies offer 401K or stock options or other means of building retirement their retirement accounts.  And of course those 'accounts' should be transferable should employees change jobs.

 

Everybody followed this plan, right?  I'm the first to admit retirement never crossed my mind until closer to it than I like to think.  Oops!   Who didn't want the bird (money) in hand rather than the one in the bush (savings) when you were young?  

 

Most peoples' retirement earnings are tied in some way to government; wars, military operations (companies making parts for those f-15 fighters jets, the ones that got government contracts to make the parts), NASA, banking, on and on. 

 

 

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Thats right, Bob.  We pay for things.   

"Freeloaders" are people who dont want to pay for things and suck off the government.....which is what Republicans always cry about but they themselves embody in its purest form as evidenced by their own legislation..

 

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The economy is booming. Unemployment is at or near historical lows, particularly among minorities and women. That is bad news for democrats, and it must be stopped by raising taxes on everything and everybody.

Originally posted by: Mark

Don said, Or, . . . perhaps, . . . just perhaps, . . . before that unpleasantness arrives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will become President and the United States will magically transfore into a Socialist Paradise where all Government benefits are "free" and citizens are taken care of from birth until death by a benevolent Government with unlimited resources and infinite wisdom.

 

[The immediately preceding paragraph is a fairy tale solution, the sarcasm of which might well reflect DonDiego's "ideological problem".]   

 

I'd settle for simply escaping this bizarre form of capitalism we practice here in the United States were profits are privatized but losses are socialized. Corporate personhood needs to be abolished as the Constitution makes no mention of corporations. Only then can our government get back to the people's work. 95% of the things Congress and even the Federal Court system currently deals with are at the behest of large corporations. That is not how our system was designed to work.

 

I wish I lived in a country where rich old white billionaires and corporations weren't portrayed as the most put-upon and disadvantaged members of our society. It is so bad the conservative media and conservative politicians have managed to convince 40% of the country that the worst thing that can happen to you in America is to be born as a straight white male with old money. 

 

If these simple desires make me a socialist in search of utopia so be so. Anything beats living in a capitalistic dystopia. 

 

I agree with you at some point it will all come to a head.  I think automation and a near future where there simply aren't enough jobs for able-bodied adults will ultimately force the issue. If I were a conservative, that is would keep me up at night. When we get to the point where 15-20% or more of able-bodied adults are unable to work because there are simply not enough jobs to go around and there won't be any for the foreseeable future, conservatism will die. 

 

 


Just curious...have you ever self-incorporated, been part of a LLC, or a board member of a small corporation? If so, do you think you should have no voice concerning laws or regulations that directly affect you?

 

It isn't "the conservative media and conservative politicians" that demonize rich people. That is the MO of  every leftist socialist marxist, even those who are already billionaires. 

Yes, I formed two LLCs concurrently. I ran one for two years and the other for 15. I will probably form another at some point in the future. I think all individuals should have a right to voice their concerns.  As a member of my LLCs, I had the right to voice my concerns about issues that impacted my LLCs. I don't think that my business entities, that are nothing more than constructs I created with a few pieces of paper and a filing fee to the SOS, should be entitled to rights of their own.   They weren't born, they don't breathe, they don't have thoughts and they don't have beliefs. 

Edited on Oct 22, 2018 10:15pm

You basically said you have (and should have) a voice, but shouldn't have a voice. 

 

Businesses are run by people. You don't become a non-person by running a business. You advocate for taking away people's rights. 

No, what I am saying is as an individual I always have a voice. Why should my LLC have a separate voice? Wouldn't that give me two voices? If I created 100 LLCs, would I be entitled to 101 voices?

Edited on Oct 23, 2018 5:53pm
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