What Do You Think?

Excellent question, Robert.  Would be interesting to hear the answer to that question from some of his supporters in here.  

So if they were educated, skilled, English speaking people, they would be acceptable

That would be fine, but most importantly they would have to have entered the country legally.

The 10m that have entered have entered illegally have none of those skills; which gets back to my original point - what do we do with them? 

As in the past (remote and currently), some will dig in and make it on their own.  "Illegal" is a loaded word, means different things to different people, though I know what is getting at in Kitchen Sink posts about 'illegal immigration.'

If all were as perfect as I am, we'd have no trouble.  I pay my bills pronto, get my taxes 'done' early, win or lose.  I pay auto insurance, property tax, etc. ahead of time, no leaving it to the last minute and forget.

But many illegals come to escape oppression and hope to reap the benefits available in the US,legally signed up or just willing, which is already established that not every immigrant is immediately put in jail but not every one is out to steal from you.  Maybe you all live in richer areas up east and think that any illegal just must be of the sordid type.

As I alluded to first paragraph, I'd prefer that every human driving a car has registered it, passed the drivers test, not inebriated, keeps it repaired, and so on.  I'd like them all to register so as to be accountable in whatever way it is done in the state or county wherever they live.  I can go on and on. I'm adding that I'd like for everyone, including the poor, the illegal, to have transportation to a job, or to take their kid to school and pick them up, get cleaning supplies with which to bathe, clean their houses.

If they are orbiting my universe, I'd prefer that they had access to food, water, shelter, clean clothes and the gumption to sign up for jobs that nobody else will do.  A lot of them do yard work, carpentry, paint houses, often at a lower cost, and that because equipment and business licenses cost a hunk of money.  The last time we had our house painted I'm pretty sure the guys who did the work (and did it excellently, under supervision---don't know if the super was 'legal') were likely not 'legal' citizens.

Maybe some steal and break other laws, maybe to survive or maybe just evil.  So are a lot of LEGAL people in my and your world.

Have any of you all worked maybe one day a month at a food bank?  Donated to a food bank?

Yes, it is complicated.

Candy

Its worth mentioning again.....

There was a biparitsan bill (mostly Republican) that made it much more difficult for migrants to claim assylum ....and also massively increased the speed at which their cases could be heard and decided before a judge (by which 3/4 of them are sent back).

But the extreme right wing of the Republican party (with Tom and David's enthusiastic support) blocked that bill because they really dont want to solve the immigration problem.   They just want to complain about it.  Especially in an election year.

Tom, David and the Trump crowd prefer the status quo on immigration compared to a bill that by all accounts makes the status quo better (by those peoples' own metrics).   Thats why the border patrol union endorsed that bill.    

Republicans arent intertested in governing.  They just want power.

There was a biparitsan bill (mostly Republican)

Wrong; it wasn't a mostly Republican bill. The real immigration bill is HR2. Chucky schumer won't even take up HR2 which actually limits illegal border crossings.

But the extreme right wing of the Republican party (with Tom and David's enthusiastic support) blocked that bill because they really dont want to solve the immigration problem.

Wrong!  The bill was blocked because people found out that the bill still allowed 1.8m illegals into the country every year.

Republicans arent intertested in governing. They just want power

Wrong again!  It is the democrats are only interested in power.  They see the illegals as new voters.  They are already trying to get them to vote.

Democrats weren't invited to negotiate HR2.    Thats why its a joke and an unserious attempt by Republicans to do a publicity stunt.   And lets be honest, Tom, thats all you want right now.

If you want fewer immigrants coming in....and getting the ones here out more quickly then the BIPARTISAN BILL would achieve that.    And it actually had the votes in House to pass if not for the feckless speaker bowing to the ring of Trump.

And as far as your talking points about that bill.....you say one thing and the factcheckers say the oppositte.  

FACT CHECK: Thanks for the opportunity to point out your misinformation

Trying to get illegals to vote?  SOunds like you're getting your talking points ready for next Jan 6th.  See you at the insurrection.