What is a Just Punishment?

An opinion that I agree with - how about you?  --https://www.facebook.com/reel/688709394238008

The power to execute is not a power that I want to trust any government with. I prefer life in prison. Arguably life in prison is worse than death anyway. 

The only time killing someone is justified is in an act of lawful defense when that individual poses an imminent threat of serious injury or worse. A man who has been arrested and imprisoned is likely not an imminent threat. 

We have a representative government. The power stems from the power of the people. The power that the people delegated to the government. It would be unlawful and unjustified for an individual to kill for revenge or punishment. Therefore I feel we cannot legitimately delegate a power to the government we do not have ourselves. 

I believe in keeping government small and limiting it's power. No government should be trusted with the power to kill people for revenge or punishment. 

I was not a particular fan of Charlie Kirk. Somethings I agreed with and some things I did not.  However I did have respect for him. And I  believe strongly in his freedom of speech. He was killed because he said words and that is unacceptable. Nobody should be killed for expressing opinions. It is only on the battlefield of ideas that the best ones can be recognized and ultimately prevail. 

The man who murdered Kirk is a violent thug and I hope he spends the rest of his life in prison. We, as a society must remain above that and prove we are better than him. I fear that by killing him for revenge we would be doing nothing but dragging ourselves down to his level. 

Those some of my thoughts on the matter. 

The Trump administration hurt the chances of getting the death penalty in Kirk's killing because of how they botched the case.  They were more concerned with using the case as a propaganda tool

rather than following proper procedure and being concerned with how the case will play out in the court room.

Straight from Google, since I'm out of time leaving for Biloxi...yay!

Old Testament Context (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:21):  "An eye for an eye" was a principle of justice designed to curb excessive vengeance and ensure fair, proportionate retribution for a crime.

New Testament Context (Matthew 5:38):  Jesus shifts the focus from legal retribution to personal mercy and forgiveness, teaching his followers to respond to injustice and grace, rather than personal retaliation.

Like Kirk's widow has shown so far. 

LiveFreeNW's post is good for me.  

When I read about an execution, what the person did to receive that sentence,I seldom get the sense that it is wrong legally or morally.  Yet I also believe it isn't right for "me" to take that life, assumming that the sentence represents "we the people".

Candy

  Seems we always hear people say they are against capital punishment - til someone they love and/or know is murdered. And they seemingly always forget about the victim who lost their life, a life they never got the chance to live. 

What Kirk's family said directly contradicts your asshat bleat.

  What one person said, being the exception, does not change the reality. 

I would be much more accepting of the death penalty if it was applied fairly AND if prosecutions that led to it were equitable. Neither is the case:

A) A capital case defended by a court-appiinted lawyer (public defender) is five times as likely to result in the death penalty than a case defended by private counsel.

B) A capital case against a black defendant is seven times as likely to result in the death penalty as cases brought against defendants of other races.

C) As many as 20% of capital convictions are in error, according to Project Innocence.

So the death penalty is not a punishment for a capital crime, but rather, for being poor and black. I'm not OK with that.

When you say "always," a single contradictory example is enough to explode your asswipe argument.

  No, you are all for the murderer and not for actual justice for the victim.