Boilerman is funny, he drops in on the forum, tells a bunch of lies and disappears, I don't know if he's as emotionally invested in the trumpster like David is, but he sure acts like the trumpster.
Boilerman is funny, he drops in on the forum, tells a bunch of lies and disappears, I don't know if he's as emotionally invested in the trumpster like David is, but he sure acts like the trumpster.
Originally posted by: tom
First there was no insurrection but pj continues that lie.
Secondly the obstruction convictions were just overturned- OOPS
No, they weren't, SCOTUS raised the legal bar for an obstruction conviction and sent the case back down to the lower court to reconsider based on their ruling.
It's still possible for Trump to be charged with the obstruction charge from what I've read. Of course, I'm not a lawyer nor do I pretend to be one on an internet forum.
Trump is a prick. The question you need to ask yourself is this. Would you rather have a prick as president and 90% of of Americans doing better, or do you want Joe with wars raging across the World and 90% of Americans suffering?
I'll take the prick.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Trump is a prick. The question you need to ask yourself is this. Would you rather have a prick as president and 90% of of Americans doing better, or do you want Joe with wars raging across the World and 90% of Americans suffering?
I'll take the prick.
I don't disagree with your choice, but - define "prick" for me as it applies to President Trump.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Trump is a prick. The question you need to ask yourself is this. Would you rather have a prick as president and 90% of of Americans doing better, or do you want Joe with wars raging across the World and 90% of Americans suffering?
I'll take the prick.
Nah, I don't need to ask myself that because of this:
"The false dilemma fallacy involves presenting a limited number of options as if they were the only options available. This forces people to choose between two extremes, even though there is a spectrum of possibilities in between. The fallacy is misleading and prevents honest debate."
I can't support a person as President who is willing to work with foreign governments to help win an election, a person who openly talks about red and blue states and plainly says that he doesn't represent the people who didn't vote for him. A President who was more worried about how Covid would affect his chances of being elected than working with all the states on solutions. A President who knew Covid was going to kill a lot of people but downplayed it because he needed a strong economy to get elected. A person who knew he lost the election yet lied about it, pressured the Secretary of State in several states to "find votes", and used a plan to have fake electors be counted in the Senate. A person who holds a rally on the day the votes are going to be certified and tells people to go to the Senate and fight for their country when he knows it isn't true.
All of this is true, not David's "truth" but the real truth, I'm not brainwashed by the far-right media who are settling lawsuits and running disclaimers about their proven lies. I also don't blindly believe the mainstream media but also know the MAGA crowd says they lie, yet the MAGA news sources are losing in court and going bankrupt to try and pay the judgments caused by their lies.
So your false dilemma fallacy is weak, much like every argument I've see you make on this forum, and that's is why I find you so funny.
Originally posted by: MaxFlavor
Nah, I don't need to ask myself that because of this:
"The false dilemma fallacy involves presenting a limited number of options as if they were the only options available. This forces people to choose between two extremes, even though there is a spectrum of possibilities in between. The fallacy is misleading and prevents honest debate."
I can't support a person as President who is willing to work with foreign governments to help win an election, a person who openly talks about red and blue states and plainly says that he doesn't represent the people who didn't vote for him. A President who was more worried about how Covid would affect his chances of being elected than working with all the states on solutions. A President who knew Covid was going to kill a lot of people but downplayed it because he needed a strong economy to get elected. A person who knew he lost the election yet lied about it, pressured the Secretary of State in several states to "find votes", and used a plan to have fake electors be counted in the Senate. A person who holds a rally on the day the votes are going to be certified and tells people to go to the Senate and fight for their country when he knows it isn't true.
All of this is true, not David's "truth" but the real truth, I'm not brainwashed by the far-right media who are settling lawsuits and running disclaimers about their proven lies. I also don't blindly believe the mainstream media but also know the MAGA crowd says they lie, yet the MAGA news sources are losing in court and going bankrupt to try and pay the judgments caused by their lies.
So your false dilemma fallacy is weak, much like every argument I've see you make on this forum, and that's is why I find you so funny.
I don't and never will agree with your statement of - "a person as President who is willing to work with foreign governments to help win an election, a person who openly talks about red and blue states and plainly says that he doesn't represent the people who didn't vote for him. A President who was more worried about how Covid would affect his chances of being elected than working with all the states on solutions. A President who knew Covid was going to kill a lot of people but downplayed it because he needed a strong economy to get elected. A person who knew he lost the election yet lied about it, pressured the Secretary of State in several states to "find votes", and used a plan to have fake electors be counted in the Senate. A person who holds a rally on the day the votes are going to be certified and tells people to go to the Senate and fight for their country when he knows it isn't true."-- Your whole paragraph is the lying media's spin on reality. Nothing you state there has been proven - and the one underlying thing is - if any/all of these things were true, just what would President Trump get out of it ? Pre covid, America was the envy of the world mainly because of the things he implemented. Being re-elected would have allowed him to continue to making America great again - but when the fraudlent election results were made public he wanted answers and he wanted an honest counting of votes - which the DemocRats saw that he did not get. As a result, everytrhing he said that would be detremental to America has happened - and Americans are living in the world that he did not have a hand in making.
David, I know what you believe, you're a MAGA. If you believe the 2020 election was stolen, you're helpless. You cannot be helped, now go check your car rental pricing.
Originally posted by: MaxFlavor
David, I know what you believe, your a MAGA. If you believe the 2020 election was stolen, you're helpless. You cannot be helped, now go check your car rental pricing.
I check the rental car pricing daily - thanks for the reminder. And yes, I am a MAGA and I know that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen. Oh, and I don't need your help, but you, on the other hand, do.
Max, the truth is the truth, no matter how many ways you twist it. Oh, and the FBI was finally backed into a corner and had to admit that there was no Russian cullusion with Trump. The uninformed missed this.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Max, the truth is the truth, no matter how many ways you twist it. Oh, and the FBI was finally backed into a corner and had to admit that there was no Russian cullusion with Trump. The uninformed missed this.
I never said collusion did I?
