When does law enforcement violate civil rights?

https://sahanjournal.com/public-safety/ice-rams-latino-man-car-south-minneapolis-immigration/

 

The same ICE people in Minnesota who shot a woman for blocking the road with her car now did this:

 

US Citizen with Latino heritage drives his car to work and gets rammed by ICE agents who racially profiled him and presumed him having an illegal status by the look of his face.

 

Just doing their job?    Harrasment?  Incompetence?  Purposeful opression?     

 

Im going with the last 3.

 

 

 

Yeah, let's not pretend that the ICE thugs are performing law enforcement. They're just Brown Shirts in a different era and serving a different dictator.

 

To continue the analogy, if anyone tried to sue the Brown Shirts, as an organization or individually, the plaintiff was thrown out of court, arrested, and jailed. What will Mein Trumpf do when victims or their loved ones file wrongful death, false arrest, civil rights violation, etc. etc. lawsuits?

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Yeah, let's not pretend that the ICE thugs are performing law enforcement. They're just Brown Shirts in a different era and serving a different dictator.

 

To continue the analogy, if anyone tried to sue the Brown Shirts, as an organization or individually, the plaintiff was thrown out of court, arrested, and jailed. What will Mein Trumpf do when victims or their loved ones file wrongful death, false arrest, civil rights violation, etc. etc. lawsuits?


 The real question should be "when do civil rights violate law enforcement"?

As I've said many times, MAGA holds the Constitution in high esteem; unfortunately, they only know about the 1st and 2nd Admendments. Completely ignorant of the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th Amendments, and probably don't realize there are 27 total Amendments. 

 

Those who know there are 27 total Amendments seem to believe they're ranked in order of importance.


Originally posted by: David Miller

 The real question should be "when do civil rights violate law enforcement"?


That's a meaningless question, because it's impossible to "violate law enforcement." Law enforcement isn't a law, so it can't be violated. Also, civil rights aren't conscious entities, so they can't violate anything.

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

As I've said many times, MAGA holds the Constitution in high esteem; unfortunately, they only know about the 1st and 2nd Admendments. Completely ignorant of the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th Amendments, and probably don't realize there are 27 total Amendments. 

 

Those who know there are 27 total Amendments seem to believe they're ranked in order of importance.


In one particular example, the Salt Lake City Tribune, which has been around since Utah was founded, has a banner atop its front page that says, "We believe that the Constitution of the United States was divinely inspired " But they ignore that pesky part about freedom of religion; even now, anyone who doesn't join the Mormon cult is shunned in social life, business, politics, etc. They're quite nice about it at first, visiting the home or business of the unbeliever and with a smile, explaining how wonderful the Mormon faith is and how that mandatory 10% tithe does so many good things. They persist for a while, then they quit and just shun you.

 

Furthermore, they appear to be OK with the part codifying slavery and stating that a black person is 3/5 of a white person.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

 

.......Furthermore, they appear to be OK with the part codifying slavery and stating that a black person is 3/5 of a white person.


Would you have preferred that slaves counted fully? That would have given the slave states a lot of power. 

 

The 3/5 rule was an anti-slavery measure. The word "white" wasn't in the text. It meantions "free persons", "indians not taxed",  and "other persons". Not all "free persons" were white. There were "free persons" that weren't white, especially in the North. 

 

 It had to do with the distribution of representatives within the federal government.

 

Federal representatives are apportioned according to population. The Slave States wanted their slave population to count fully. Anti-slave states didn't want the slaves to count at all. 

 

If, the slaves were counted fully for this purpose then the slave states would have had a huge majority of representatives in the federal government. 

 

The 3/5 rule was a compromise. Should the anti-slave states have dug in their heels and insisted the slaves didn't count at all? Perhaps. 

 

But implying that the 3/5 rule was somehow designed or intended to disenfranchise black people is intellectually dishonest. 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

That's a meaningless question, because it's impossible to "violate law enforcement." Law enforcement isn't a law, so it can't be violated. Also, civil rights aren't conscious entities, so they can't violate anything.


 Really? So apparently what the  "protestors " have been and are currently doing in Minnesota is not " violating" law enforcement ? The obstructing of law enforcement officers as they carry out the law is a crime and violates their civil rights of these officers as they are doing their job.

 

 

Originally posted by: David Miller

 Really? So apparently what the  "protestors " have been and are currently doing in Minnesota is not " violating" law enforcement ? The obstructing of law enforcement officers as they carry out the law is a crime and violates their civil rights of these officers as they are doing their job.

 

 


JMHO, I think that isn't quite right, David, re "civil rights".  Civil rights have to do with discrimination based on race, sex, religion, disability, and other civil protections outlined.  Protestors would have to be intentionally interferring with duties of the enforcement personnel based on one or more of those entitlements.

 

The protestors may be in violation of criminal laws, depending on the specific laws of the jurisdiction and the acts of the protestors. 

 

Candy

I'm not alone in this.  I'm sick and tired at the number of people who believe that the the can defy police orders.  I've had it with people believing that they can flee police with no ramifications.  Police have been pussified over the years and that is slowly changing.  ICE is taking none of this bull shit, and they should not.

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