When Trump Goes To Prison Does The...

...Secret Service still have to provide him protection inside the big house?

If you need help following all of the scandals and indictments surrounding Trump's inner circle Bloomberg has put together an interactive guide to help you stay on top of it.  (all 24 people)    

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/trump-administration-conflicts/

But to be fair they have also kept track of the Obama scandals.   If you need help staying on top of those they have provided this meme of William Shattner screaming Bengazhi

There is a school of legal thought which opines that a sitting President cannot be charged/tried/convicted while in office.  He must leave office either voluntarily or at the end of his term or after impeachment before charges can be brought.

There is another school of thought which says that ain't so.

The question has never been resolved by an actual legal charge with a penalty of incarceration being enforced against a sitting President.

Mueller's grand jury has just been extended by 6 months. Point being, it seems to me we might not get a final report until after the 2020 election. If Trump is voted out of office in 2020, he will likely be indicted once he leaves office.  I also suspect there is already a sealed indictment out of SDNY with his name on it over his campaign finance violations.  If Cohen got three years, how many years should the guy that gave him the orders get? A sealed indictment would activate once Trump leaves office.

As to possible Federal charges, there is one big underlying issue the conflicting Justice Department memos on Indictments don't address.  If a President committed crimes specifically to win the Presidency, what is the remedy? If there is none as conservatives suggest, why wouldn't future candidates criminally cheat as much as they can knowing there will only be consequences if they lose?

Possible Federal Charges aside, it has been widely reported that Trump, The Trump Org and various Trump family members are being investigated by the Attorney Generals from New York and New Jersey for engaging in various criminal rackets.  If these state AGs find there were crimes committed, they are not prohibited from inditing a sitting president.

Anyway, I am not sure how much prohibitions against indicting a president really matter.  Mueller can indict some or all of Trump's adult children, his wife and most importantly the Trump Organization if there is any evidence that any of these folks or his business were involved in the various rackets Trump may have participated in. We already know from the Cohen stuff in SDNY Eric Trump and the Trump Organization were involved in those payments. I think when this happens it will be the rubber meets the road moment. Trump will feel forced to act at that point even though he himself has not been indicted. 

Jon Karl, certainly not a Trump fan, begs to differ......

The Dems are in for disappointment

This investigation needs to wind it up report what they have! We are what 18 months and millions of dollars spent, enough already!

The uncontested facts already in the record are enough for anyone that truly cares about our democracy being infiltrated by a foreign power.

- Trump picked Putin's propoganda minister in Ukraine to be the cheif executive of his campaign even as that person was heavily indebted to Russian oligarchs and has since been convicted of several felonies realted to those realtionships and his lies about them.     That cant be said loud enough.   Lets be clear about Manaort's employment record.  He was getting paid by Russia to influence the Ukraine media in direct opposittion to US interests in that region.   This is who Trump picked to be in charge of his campaign.

- Trump's son met with Russian operatives to gather data about his father's political opponent ...and then lied about it....and then had later admit the truth when the fake news media brought the facts to the fore.

- The Mueller investigation has already indicted/convicted over 25 of Trump's handpicked inner circle members and Russian operatives directly stemming from their illegal behavior in his election.

- Trump openly smacked down the the consensus of the United States intelligence agencies regarding Russian influence in his election and sided with Vladimir Putin on a national stage in Helsinki.     

These are uncontested facts.   Just on that last point alone....imagine if George Bush stood on the Battleship saying Bin Laden strongly denies having anything to do with 9/11.   So I'm going with that. 

Our president is a traitor....thats based on what is already in evidence.   I suspect the Mueller report is going to be a whole lot more.

- Trump picked Putin's propoganda minister in Ukraine to be the cheif executive of his campaign- WHAT?

 "Trump's son met with Russian operatives to gather data about his father's political opponent ...and then lied about it" - SOUNDS LIKE THE FAKE DOSSIER THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN DID

"The Mueller investigation has already indicted/convicted over 25" - NOT A SINGLE ONE FOR WHAT THE INVESTIGTION WAS SET TO DO

"These are uncontested facts" - YOUR FIRST LINE OF YOUR POST PROVES YOU ARE FULL OF POO POO

What?  Huh?  Duh?

Manafort's job before being Trump's campaign CEO

How Manafort helped elect Russia's candidate in Ukraine

"Paul Manafort, who was Trump's campaign chief from May to August 2016, spent nearly a decade as a consultant to Ukraine's Party of Regions and its standardbearer, Viktor Yanukovych.

Backed by Russian-leaning oligarchs, the party opposed NATO membership and spouted anti-Western rhetoric that once helped fuel violence against American marines. Its reign ended when Yanukovych fled to Russia after bloody street protests against his personal corruption and pro-Moscow actions."

I really wish your IQ was low enough for you to be fluent in your mother tongue.

Manafort worked as a lobbyist for an interest or interests in the Ukraine before Trump ran for office. Russia attacked the Ukraine before Trump ran for office. That is not Trump being influenced by Putin.

Trump's son met with someone connected to Fusion GPS and /or the Steele docier that was compiled by people hired by Hillary Clinton's campaign. The only Russians that anyone in the Trump campaign came into contact with were already involved with the Clinton campaign.

The Clinton Foundation received hundreds of millions of dollars to buy influence of HRC while she was SOS. She also sold 20% of our nation's uranium supply TO RUSSIA. When will Mueller start investigating her and her campaign? A hint: they won't because this never really was about Russia influencing Trump. A few Russians bought a few $thousand in ads on Facebook, that some on the left claim had an impact on the general election. That would be pretty embarrassing, given the scope of their campaigns and the hundreds of millions of dollars they spent on them!

Trump has "smacked down" some members of the intelligence agencies that have been shown to have been working against Trump and his campaign during and after the election. And some might still be, given the recent disappearance, then sudden reappearance, of Strzok and Page text messages. 

Manafort and Cohen have both pleaded guilty to things that weren't crimes. They didn't go to trial before a judge and jury. They were not proved to be crimes, crimes that either man committed. They copped to pleas so the district courts would stop further ruining their lives and the lives of their family members. It is a very powerful machine that politicians use to destroy people.

Our president is not a traitor, no matter how much your hate drives you to want him to be.