When you’re finding fraud and someone yells STOP!

Originally posted by: Nines

The USAID whacking process is just the beginning. There's going to be hundreds of lawsuits / challenges / court cases before the digging ends.


  It won't make any difference - the corrupt DemocRats have been exposed, and this is just the beginning. 

Originally posted by: Nines

The USAID whacking process is just the beginning. There's going to be hundreds of lawsuits / challenges / court cases before the digging ends.


The Turd thinks he has absolute power, and has already shown himself to be surprised and butt-hurt when that proves not to be the case.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

The Turd thinks he has absolute power, and has already shown himself to be surprised and butt-hurt when that proves not to be the case.


  Actually the corrupt DemocRats are the ones that are butt-hurt as they show each day with their asinine tantrums. They know that they are being exposed and that all of America now realizes just how corrupt that these traitors are. If they were smart - which they aren't- they would shut up, resign and hope they don't get arrested and tried for the thieving bastards that they are. The DemocRatic Party is finished. 

The Republican party is pissing away its current popularity by endorsing all sorts of unlawful moves by the Turd. People notice that he wants to be a fascist dictator, and they won't stand for it.

 

MAGA is a gang of dumb fucks.

Edited on Feb 8, 2025 10:16am

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

The Republican party is pissing away its current popularity by endorsing all sorts of unlawful moves by the Turd. People notice that he wants to be a fascist dictator, and they won't stand for it.

 

MAGA is a gang of dumb fucks.


  And you are a one man gang of dumb fucks.

Personally, as a fiscal conservative I'm a huge fan of cutting govt. waste / fraud / overspending; but there are some legal hurdles to jump in order to accomplish it / make it sustainable. Those hurdles might cause a major downshift in progress with the current push. Congress has to get on board with these funding cuts at some point or it won't hold up. The so-named impoundment powers of the president aren't enough without  congressional legislation (SCOTUS said so in both 1975 and 1998).

 

A majority of the Dems here and in Congress are bemoaning the processes currently being employed. They conveniently forget that Clinton and Gore applied some of these exact same tactics when they were in power ( 1993 - NPR Act). Of course, the plusses from that initiative just seemed to wane and wither away over time despite good changes; plus that was 30+ yrs ago. Any of these so-called significant agency changes and cost - cutting measures might have short-term half-lives the way the annoying political pendulum swings back and forth in the US. Summarily, I'm a huge supporter of what they're doing..the cutting, etc..but they have to enact laws to back and sustain it.

 

But it provides fodder for spurious debate..obviously. Yipee-ti-yay...

Edited on Feb 8, 2025 12:37pm
Originally posted by: Nines

Personally, I'm a huge fan of cutting waste / fraud / overspending; but there are some legal hurdles to jump in order to accomplish it. Those hurdles might cause a major downshift in progress..Congress has to get on board with these funding cuts at some point or it won't hold up.


Agreed 

Originally posted by: Nines

Personally, as a fiscal conservative I'm a huge fan of cutting govt. waste / fraud / overspending; but there are some legal hurdles to jump in order to accomplish it / make it sustainable. Those hurdles might cause a major downshift in progress with the current push. Congress has to get on board with these funding cuts at some point or it won't hold up. The so-named impoundment powers of the president aren't enough without  congressional legislation (SCOTUS said so in both 1975 and 1998).

 

A majority of the Dems here and in Congress are bemoaning the processes currently being employed. They conveniently forget that Clinton and Gore applied some of these exact same tactics when they were in power ( 1993 - NPR Act). Of course, the plusses from that initiative just seemed to wane and wither away over time despite good changes; plus that was 30+ yrs ago. Any of these so-called significant agency changes and cost - cutting measures might have short-term half-lives the way the annoying political pendulum swings back and forth in the US. Summarily, I'm a huge supporter of what they're doing..the cutting, etc..but they have to enact laws to back and sustain it.

 

But it provides fodder for spurious debate..obviously. Yipee-ti-yay...


Sorry.  No.

 

Democrats never gave unsupervised access to people with no backgriound checks or security clearances.  And certainly not to a contractor who has business with the government.   

 

Musk's first order of business with his "cost cutting group" was to disolve the government agency that was suing his company.    I guess that doesnt strike you as a massive conflict of interest and flagrant corruption?    

 

Democrats initially were onboard with DOGE.  Some still are.   If Musk and his band of merry men want to make a good faith effort to find waste, fraud, and abuse I think everyone is onboard.  So far the entire effort is to go after "woke", "DEI", and Trump's political enemies who had the audacity to hold him accountable for Jan 6.      If thats the Republican's big plan for cost savings then it should be treated like the joke and corruption it so far has been.

 

I hope they find something in the Medicare/Medicaid/Military spending which is where the real meat is.    The problem they have now is that they've already undermined their credibility.   Even if they find legit stuff going forward it will be met skeptically.    They brouight that on themselves.

 

 And what's going to happen is all those fired employees are going to sue for back-pay plus any benefits owed to them. Since the cuts weren't done legally, the government will have to pay.


Then when the next person takes over the agencies that were illegally shut down will start back up and have to be re staffed. The start-up costs will be astronomical vs just having let the agencies run as is over the next four years.  Whether your a Trump person or not, the way that this is been done, will result in the government having to pay out billions in settlements and litigation. Just do it legally

if that is what you want to do. 

 

 

Edited on Feb 8, 2025 1:13pm

Let me know when the cost cutting puts a dent into any of the 4 biggest chunks on this pie graph.

Some small line item  deep inside the "Intl Affaris" section  is the USAid victory they are bragging about.    And MAGA is all clapping their hands.

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited on Feb 8, 2025 1:23pm
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