It takes digging into an 800 page bill to find out what is really in it. And/or living it and then finding out...oops, didn't know THAT would happen. Folks get excited about headlines and titles such as "tax the rich", having no idea what it means and how it works, the upside and downside depending on who you are and what you depend on.
Originally posted by: tom
They are prediciting a record number of unfiled tax returns this year?
Who is predicting that?
Who hasn't received a check?
And DOGE didnt do anything with Medicare or Medicaid. Nothing. Congress might with their new billionaire tax bill.
That is chucky and company scare tactics. If the taxes expire it will be the largest tax increase on the middle class ever!
From Politifact
If the tax cuts expire, it would result in the largest middle-class tax hike in history, an estimated $4.6 trillion revenue increase over a decade.
PJ argues that a surge in tax payers not filing tax returns is the DOGE's fault. Did Musk suggest or ask that they file late?
Originally posted by: Edso
He didn't say he doesn't pay taxes, he said that he wasn't going to pay Federal Income tax during Trump's term to protest DOGE letting go of so many IRS employees.
Destitute people pay no taxes.
Kevin will provide no proof of the any change in IRS tax return timing since DOGE. Why...because there is none. Just Lyin' Liberals lyin'.
Kevin, half of American workers pay no taxes. I'm confident that you fall into the catagory.
Here is what I know for a fact. My elderly mother filed her return in February and it was professionally prepared and it was an uncomplicated return. She has yet to receive her refund. The people that did her return set-up a call with the IRS to see why.
The appointment was two weeks out. The call never came and the IRS rescheduled the call. That appointment came two weeks later and the IRS called. They said they won't be able to make the call as scheduled and will call back in 74 minutes wasting my Mom's time and the tax preparer's time. When they called back they said they had no idea why her return was being delayed. When asked if there was anybody that would she was told no unfortunately there was not. They said the timeline they were working on now meant that nobody would even look at it for the next 6 months to a year. She was advised by the IRS to contact her Representative or Senator to see if they could bump her to the front of the line.
What a cluster fuck on a simple 1040. I am so glad I filed an extension. If they keep it up, I might just file another one when that one expires.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Kevin will provide no proof of the any change in IRS tax return timing since DOGE. Why...because there is none. Just Lyin' Liberals lyin'.
Kevin, half of American workers pay no taxes. I'm confident that you fall into the catagory.
And how do you know that "there is none"? Can't answer? Coward!
I work, and I pay taxes. Boilerboob has obviously never done either.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Originally posted by: tom
They are prediciting a record number of unfiled tax returns this year?
Who is predicting that?
Who hasn't received a check?
And DOGE didnt do anything with Medicare or Medicaid. Nothing. Congress might with their new billionaire tax bill.
That is chucky and company scare tactics. If the taxes expire it will be the largest tax increase on the middle class ever!
From Politifact
If the tax cuts expire, it would result in the largest middle-class tax hike in history, an estimated $4.6 trillion revenue increase over a decade.
PJ argues that a surge in tax payers not filing tax returns is the DOGE's fault. Did Musk suggest or ask that they file late?
Yes ! He did suggest they file late...or not at all....via firing all of the people who audit unfiled returns.
Boilerman seems to understand how defunding the police causes more crime in San Francisco.....but its a real head scratcher for him to use that same logic with the IRS and tax cheats.
I cant help him with that.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Originally posted by: tom
They are prediciting a record number of unfiled tax returns this year?
Who is predicting that?
Who hasn't received a check?
And DOGE didnt do anything with Medicare or Medicaid. Nothing. Congress might with their new billionaire tax bill.
That is chucky and company scare tactics. If the taxes expire it will be the largest tax increase on the middle class ever!
From Politifact
If the tax cuts expire, it would result in the largest middle-class tax hike in history, an estimated $4.6 trillion revenue increase over a decade.
PJ argues that a surge in tax payers not filing tax returns is the DOGE's fault. Did Musk suggest or ask that they file late?
No, but the drop in filing is a direct result of DOGE's evil and stupid actions. Taxpayers across the country are withholding their returns in protest. That certainly includes many of the federal employees who have been fucked over by ElonTurd's actions. It also includes me.
I'll be more than happy to pay my federal income taxes once we return to fiscal and governmental sanity and I know my tax dollars aren't going into Elon's and/or the Turd's pockets. So far, every indication is that that is exactly where that money is going. So only a sucker or a MAGA would cough up, not until the Turd is dead, anyway. Ain't got nothin' to do with "Liberals," Boilerboob. It has to do with Republican criminals looting the Treasury.
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
It takes digging into an 800 page bill to find out what is really in it. And/or living it and then finding out...oops, didn't know THAT would happen. Folks get excited about headlines and titles such as "tax the rich", having no idea what it means and how it works, the upside and downside depending on who you are and what you depend on.
I find it puzzling that "Don't tax the rich" has proved to be so popular, in that so many people continued to vote for Trump after he caused a gigantic deficit with his tax cuts, which benefited the rich and big corporations far, far more than they did the average Joe. Joe got a 2% reduction for one year and a series of 2% increases every year after that. The rich got a 50% cut for the next eight years, and so did corporations.
No one needed to delve particularly deeply into the Turd Tax bill to discern all that. As I was a seasonal tax preparer at the time, I can relate that the real surprises were when people found out that they could no longer take an itemized deduction for mortgage interest, drastically inflating the cost of their housing. A close second was the removal of the deduction for state income taxes paid; such removal amounted to grossly unfair double taxation.
I also find it puzzling that whining about the deficit has been such a reliable Republican shibboleth but at the same time, there was nothing but deafening silence from them when the Turd did his thievery.
The law included a series of graduated yearly tax rate increases, so that in the second tax year, that 2% savings was wiped out. And the increases continued, so that the middle class is now paying roughly 15% more in federal income tax
One of kevin's greatest lies.
The tax tables have been level since 2017, while the std deduction has increased every year.due to inflation.
No, but the drop in filing is a direct result of DOGE's evil and stupid actions.
ANOTHER KEVIN LIE
Recent data shows the IRS grew its workforce to more than 100,000 total employees, a staffing milestone the agency hasn’t cracked in nearly 30 years.
https://federalnewsnetwork.com/hiring-retention/2025/01/irs-workforce-surpasses-100000-employees-but-faces-war-of-attrition-retaining-staff/
NO PROOF
Taxpayers across the country are withholding their returns in protest.
ANOTHER ONE OF KEVIN'S 100 CAREERS
As I was a seasonal tax preparer at the time,
Another lie as this was offset by the increased std deduction. The tax payer could do it both ways to see which worked better.
No longer take an itemized deduction for mortgage interest, drastically inflating the cost of their housing.
MANY HAVEN'T PAID TAXES IN YEARS; INCLUDING IRS EMPLOYEES
That certainly includes many of the federal employees
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxes/irs-audit-report-finds-employees-owe-50-million-in-back-taxes-double-standard/ar-BB1qQdcW
