Worldwide Turd depression coming

The Orange Asshole's latest threat is a 50% tariff on EU goods. Tariff tariff tariff tariff tariff. God, how he loves that word. He thinks it's the solution to everything. If Melania broke her leg, he'd tell her to put a tariff on it.

It's amazing that the Turd has this isolationist idea that we should exist without trade --and that such existence would be an improvement. NO nation in the history of human civilization has existed, let alone thrived, without trade. And now the idiot asshole jerkface you MAGA scum voted for wants to cut it off.

I'm sure Millerscum etc. will start bleating in defense of this latest idiotic Turd move.

Given the age of those that frequent this forum,  the damage Trump is doing won't be undone in our lifetimes. If you have kids and grandkids, it is going to be painful to watch them needlessly live through a much lower standard of living than we did. 

  The reluctance for the EU to follow up on their promise to negotate for fair trade is the reaction of those in the EU who have taken advantage of the trade imbalance with America that funded these nations. This is just another indication that all of the nations facing tariffs have been living off of America's money because of the gouging that they have done tradewise with America. Like children, these nations are throwing a tantrum because the Golden Goose that America was will no longer finance these nations. All of these nations will come around because their existence depends on trade with America.  In the meantime, rabid morons slam the sanity behind tariffs - these idiots are too ignorant to see the forest for the trees. 

Give me more of this 'Damage'.  

Memorial Day Weekend: Gas prices hit 4-year low as millions of Americans load up their cars to enjoy vacation | Today News

CPI Inflation Moderates To 4-Year Low As Tariff Impact Stays Limited

A Running List of New U.S. Investment in President Trump’s Second Term

Should I mention egg prices?

Just you wait Charles. The damage is already done. Once people walk in to Wal-Mart and see empty shelves along with higher prices they will come unglued.

Also, that new investment list includes projects in the works well before Trump's tarrifs and if you make a list of companies putting investment on hold, it would be a lot longer than that list. 

My work took me to a small manufacturing plant this week. They normally have 20 to 25 people working in the plant.  There were 3 when I arrived. I asked the plant manager where all the employees are and he said I don't have any work for them.  

He told me none of his clients are ordering anything because everybody is frozen in place not knowing what to build or if there are going to be parts available to build anything.  He said he doesn't know how much longer he has left. 

God, you're stupid, Charles. The good economic news is due to the effects of the Biden economy. The Trump damage is only just starting to be felt. And he only announced the EU tariffs yesterday.

It's coming, stupid angry Charles.

  Let's see if I understand - apparently Mark thinks that nothing should change as America goes deeper into debt as the rest of the world fleeces America with their tariffs. After 3 months of enactment, tariff negotations have just started, with the desired results forthcoming. The disparity of worldwide tariffs that have led to American tax payers dollars funding other nations economies will not continue. There have already been trillions of dollars of investments pledged by other nations which will create millions of jobs and stimulate the American economy. Manufacturing is returning and America will no longer be dependent on the tariff gouging  nations for much of what America imports  Presently, this is a transition period which, while unsavory, is temporary. Years from now everyone will be praising the common sense being utilized today and will be forever thankful for what President Trump has done.  -- But, as usual, Mark never offers any solutions - he just complains and complains - he is short sighted which has only been made worse because of his TDS.

We are going 4 trillion deeper in debt because of Trump's big beautiful bill. If debt is a problem, you don't borrow four trillion dollars to give wealthy people a tax break in the middle of an economic downturn.

Tariffs are simply a very large tax increase on American consumers. It will do nothing to get America out of debt and only decrease the standard of living for most Americans. 

As I pointed out to Charles,  that list is as reliable as Elon's DOGE savings list. There has been way more pulling back investment than there has been new investment.  In fact the worst thing you could do right now in manufacturing is invest in the US. Trump's economic policy changes daily and sometimes more than once a day. In manufacturing uncertainty paralyzes you. You need to have economic certainty before you build anything.

    First of all you are completely full of shit. Secondly you never said a word the past 4 years when the brain dead Biden administration added $8 trillion to the national debt - which did happen and has been verified. How much new business did Biden add?  How many real actual new jobs did he add? How much manufacturing did Biden bring back to America? How much fair trade did Biden create? Christ, you are a simpleton. And once again, you have offered no solutions to achieving worldwide fair trade and to ending America funding the economies of other nations that have lived off of the unfair tariffs they have imposed on America.

You are the one that brought up debt not me. Your numbers are incorrect. Biden added 4.3 trillion in debt during his term. Trump added 8.4 trillion during his first term and he getting ready to add another 4 trillion in the first year of this term.  If your issue, as you stated, is doing something about long term debt you voted for the wrong person.  Not to mention by the time the Trump shit show is over we are going to have to spend trillions more to revive the economy and the country. 

As far as me being a simpleton, I am not so ignorant as to think I can buck 200+ years of economic data and history. That somehow tarrifs are going to magically work out different this time around.