Your fearless "Leader?, in his own words.

The best play I can recall was at a locals' casino that had a promo two days a week. You got a scratch off ticket for every four of a kind. If you were playing .25 and above, you got one kind of scratcher---usually worth $5. .05 and .10 play got a $2 card. .01 play got $1.

 

You can see how the .01 prize was, on a percentage basis, much greater than the others. It amounted to 20 extra bets every roughly 424 hands. In other words, an almost 5% boost to EV. Even the worst games would be strongly positive. 

 

This was more a curiosity than a viable play until I noticed that they had a bank of hundred play games,  and some were .01 denoms. I found a full pay game, much to my surprise: 9/7 TDB, which returns 99.54%. The final piece of the puzzle was: would they pay multiple quads on the same hand? I found out that they would.

 

So here I had an effectively $5 a hand game that returned over +4%, and with very little variance. Hundred play goes more slowly than single line, but with the "Turbo" setting engaged, I managed 600 hands an hour. $1800 an hour at +4% is $72 an hour.

 

I sped things up by making sure that a slot attendant was always hovering nearby to give me my scratchers---I always tipped her. What blew my mind is that I was always alone on that bank--no one else seemed to know about this play. It lasted three months, until they didn't end the promo, but they removed the hundred play machines. By then, I was about $15,000 to the good.

 

Probably the best play ever was when Texas Station first opened. Double pay on all four of a kinds. You can imagine--after word got out, the place was mobbed. To give them credit, they stuck to it for five days of the originally announced week before they pulled the plug. I heard that the promo had cost them $26 million.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Nothing actually ever speaks for itself. And why do you believe that Facebook is an authoritative source?


Kevin is correct in this case.  Biden can't speak for himself.  He's a puppet being manipulated by others.

Biden approval sinks to 42%.  The honeymoon's over.  Wait until the food inflation really kicks in.

 

9/14/21 - Biden Underwater On Job Approval And Handling Of Key Issues, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; More Than 6 In 10 Americans Believe U.S. Troops Will Return To Afghanistan | Quinnipiac University Poll

That is an interesting play.  Wow. 

 

That Palms one I mentioned earlier was actually on only 4 machines at 3 different bars.  The other games were not as good.  It lasted for years!  Now the key was always going on 2x or 3x points days though obviously.  Sometimes it coincided with one of their drawings too so that was extra EV.  (same drawings Bob is talking about in his article this week)  

 

The other big one I've see was in the Midwest at an Indian casino (early 2010s)  and they didn't know what they were doing.  They had NSUD 99.73 and then slot club was .25.  However you could swipe on certain days and either get 2x or 3x points even on VP.  They would do bounce back cash in trailing months too.  But it didn't last long when I saw players from Vegas there.  They were playing $1 10 line NSUD and in long shifts just dominated the bank of 5 machines. I calculated it out to well over $100 an hour play.  Maybe $200.  Lasted about 2 weeks.  

 

However they kept $1 single line around on just a few machines for years in the high limit room.  I found a sweet spot at about $40K through a month.  (8-10 hours of play is all so it was fun diversion away from live poker for me).  It was just the 99.73 + .25 but the sweet spot I'm referring to was about $400 bounceback free play a month.  During holidays it was up to $600 a month.  I worked 5 mins away so it was easy for me to pick it up even if it was in weekly installments.  There were only a few locals that knew about it.  When downgraded finally after 2+ years I was up around $8-$10K.  Got about correct amount of royals, etc.  Picked up some nice free show tickets and other gifts as well.  And hit them on customer appreciation days too with my shifts of 3 hours in early am and I got picked for drawings a few times as well.  It all adds up.  

 

But these types of events are few and far between nowadays.  I'd like to hear from some old timers and what they saw in the hey day of 1990s or early 2000s.  I know some $1 FPDW as popped up but it only lasts a few weeks and is gone before I can get out there.  (Hard Rock, a few other places come to mind, downtown a few years ago)  I bet there was 5 and 10 play quarter FPDW, huh?  That would have been wild.  


Yeah, there were plenty of FPDW opportunities back in the day. Harvey's in Tahoe had $1 FPDW. Santa Fe in Vegas had four-play FPDW on their Odyssey machines. Plays kept popping up everywhere, and while the bottom-feeders often descended on these plays and burned them out, more always sprang up.

 

Hell, it wasn't that long ago that the Skyline in Henderson had a dozen ten-coin .25 FPDW  in their "Deuces Corral." But some nimrod decided to practically live there and play three machines at once, 14-16 hours a day. The Skyline said, enough is enough, and fried all the deuces machines in the joint.

 

That's the problem with finding good plays these days--they don't stay under the radar long enough. Many of the anecdotes about good plays I've heard, like what you told us, were at Big Wampum Injun Casino out in Skeleton Flats. Very often, the people running these places don't know what they're doing, and good plays pop up. If you're a local, you might be able to milk those plays for quite a while before the inevitable vanload of Vegas bottom-feeders shows up and burns out the play.

Edited on Sep 15, 2021 9:27pm

That is exactly what happened here in the Midwest to that big play.  I literally recognized Vegas vp players and I'm just a 4-5x a year Vegas tourist.  I was in shock!  

 

Those FPDW games are amazing you reference.  And funny you bring up Skyline.  Yeah it is a dump and the 10-coin .25 machines were slow but it was kind of a fun nostalgic play I'd do with an old work buddy and we enjoyed it.  Like traveling back in time to Vegas 20 years.  Pretty enjoyable and good music in there actually.  Waitresses were nice and no annoying tourists.  I think I even saw the guy you are referring to.  And it was despicable.  And gone the next time I went out to Vegas!

What I find amusing about this thread is the conservative folks here insist Biden has some sort of dementia while most of Trump's own people thought he was batshit crazy and likely to start a war because he couldn't deal with losing the election. 

 

 

 

 

Edited on Sep 16, 2021 5:45am

I doubt that any of our local conservitards actually think Biden has dementia (or know how to recognize it), with the possible exception of Tommie-poo.

 

Remember, they're not thinking human beings; they're merely Fox News conduits. And Mother Tucker and the gang, lacking anything substantial to bitch about, have returned to this pseudo-issue like a dog to a favorite bone.

 

And our little Trump-slaves follow along happily, tails wagging.

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

That is exactly what happened here in the Midwest to that big play.  I literally recognized Vegas vp players and I'm just a 4-5x a year Vegas tourist.  I was in shock!  

 

Those FPDW games are amazing you reference.  And funny you bring up Skyline.  Yeah it is a dump and the 10-coin .25 machines were slow but it was kind of a fun nostalgic play I'd do with an old work buddy and we enjoyed it.  Like traveling back in time to Vegas 20 years.  Pretty enjoyable and good music in there actually.  Waitresses were nice and no annoying tourists.  I think I even saw the guy you are referring to.  And it was despicable.  And gone the next time I went out to Vegas!


I used to enjoy the Skyline. It was everything the big glitzy casinos were not. A friendly staff and customers, and until recently (dammit), some of the best VP in town.

Once again dementia Joe blanks out. He can't remember the Australian PM's name, calls him the man from down under. I guess it is an improvement from "the guy over there"

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