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qmc_sw
qmc_sw
Jun 22, 2012
12:40am
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Another factor is it takes one person to wave you through a metal detector. It takes three people at the full body scanners. More public sector union jobs.


Yes, because more jobs for people are a HORRIBLE thing!

BobOrme - just when you make a valid point, you destroy your creibility with an idiotic, politically-based comment such as this one.
drmilled
drmilled
Jun 22, 2012
12:54am
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Some people won't be happy til computers and the corporate mentality have eliminated humans from all jobs, then they will bitch when their job has been eliminated by the same corporations and computers. Remember, the only thing that corporations care about is the bottom line, you and me are just fodder.
nemesis
nemesis
Jun 24, 2012
12:04am
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To think this all started with my question about whether or not shorts and sandals were still allowable flight attire.

Talk about taking on a life of its own!

By the way............................no pat-down was required. Just a two second scan.
stg200
stg200
Jul 14, 2012
2:55am
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All I know is if you see your buddy Jack standing in the line, don't say "hi" to him. Trust me on that.

oldsand
oldsand
Jul 15, 2012
9:11am
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I have found the best thing is to have NO pockets! They really seem to like that. I wear a light cardigan because the flight is often cold. I must take this off before I go through security anyway, so my pockets are all gone by the time the machine looms. I've never had any problems, not even with the multiple pins and screws in my ankle from an old break,
BobOrme
BobOrme
Jul 19, 2012
2:41pm
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
Go to the ATL website and check out their employment section. Show me where there is any indication that employee screening done by contractors is subject to further scrutiny by TSA and/or DHS.
I don't care if the ATL website says Rihanna is a mollusk.

The TSA screens every airport employee who gets access to the secure and sterile areas. I've shown you the TSA link. And since I know some people need repetition to learn, I'll post it again. Here.

Bob, you don't know what you're talking about.

Apparently the TSA isn't capable of properly screening the owner of a flight school or the people taking flight training at the school. I would have thought 9/11 taught us something about flight schools and terrorists.

Flight School

...and you trust them to thoroughly screen every airport employee? It ain't happening at that level, and the fact that it hasn't been happening at the level of licensing pilots and at least one flight school owner is incredible!

szelisk
szelisk
Jul 19, 2012
11:35pm
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Originally posted by: qmc_sw
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Another factor is it takes one person to wave you through a metal detector. It takes three people at the full body scanners. More public sector union jobs.


Yes, because more jobs for people are a HORRIBLE thing!

BobOrme - just when you make a valid point, you destroy your creibility with an idiotic, politically-based comment such as this one.


qmc_sw, I guess you can afford more luxury pensions and health care. Should we raise our tax rate to 90% so more "Public Sector Union Jobs" can be made?
Dan Svatass
Dan Svatass
Jul 20, 2012
4:42am
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
Go to the ATL website and check out their employment section. Show me where there is any indication that employee screening done by contractors is subject to further scrutiny by TSA and/or DHS.
I don't care if the ATL website says Rihanna is a mollusk.

The TSA screens every airport employee who gets access to the secure and sterile areas. I've shown you the TSA link. And since I know some people need repetition to learn, I'll post it again. Here.

Bob, you don't know what you're talking about.

Apparently the TSA isn't capable of properly screening the owner of a flight school or the people taking flight training at the school. I would have thought 9/11 taught us something about flight schools and terrorists.

Flight School

...and you trust them to thoroughly screen every airport employee? It ain't happening at that level, and the fact that it hasn't been happening at the level of licensing pilots and at least one flight school owner is incredible!
This has nothing to do with anything I was discussing with you.

Moreover, no one contends TSA is infallible.

I too would want to change the subject of this thread if I was forced to defend things BobOrme has said here.
BobOrme
BobOrme
Jul 22, 2012
6:08pm
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
Go to the ATL website and check out their employment section. Show me where there is any indication that employee screening done by contractors is subject to further scrutiny by TSA and/or DHS.
I don't care if the ATL website says Rihanna is a mollusk.

The TSA screens every airport employee who gets access to the secure and sterile areas. I've shown you the TSA link. And since I know some people need repetition to learn, I'll post it again. Here.

Bob, you don't know what you're talking about.

Apparently the TSA isn't capable of properly screening the owner of a flight school or the people taking flight training at the school. I would have thought 9/11 taught us something about flight schools and terrorists.

Flight School

...and you trust them to thoroughly screen every airport employee? It ain't happening at that level, and the fact that it hasn't been happening at the level of licensing pilots and at least one flight school owner is incredible!
This has nothing to do with anything I was discussing with you.

Moreover, no one contends TSA is infallible.

I too would want to change the subject of this thread if I was forced to defend things BobOrme has said here.

The entire discussion in this thread has been about airport security, run by the TSA. You are the one who claimed the pecker checkers (full body scanners) are safe, but dismissed the differences in treatment of airport employees and flight crews based on TSA screening processes regarding airport employment and/or access to secure areas. You are the one who claimed the TSA properly and thoroughly screens everyone who has secure access to our airports all the way down to the burger and fries folks. You dismiss actual evidence of TSA screening negligence of flight school operations at the ownership and student level as changing the subject. Not all TSA employees are properly trained. I check the TSA website on a regular basis and have found on occasion to know more about their regulations than the people screening me. I tell them what the rules really are, and they subject me to a variety of additional screening for pointing out that they don't know what I do about their rules. These things are all related. I know it's impossible for you to admit you are wrong about this. The "no one contends the TSA is infallible" is lip service CYA on your part. You've done nothing but suggest that everything they do is right and proper.

Dan Svatass
Dan Svatass
Jul 23, 2012
5:38am
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
The entire discussion in this thread has been about airport security, run by the TSA. You are the one who claimed the pecker checkers (full body scanners) are safe, but dismissed the differences in treatment of airport employees and flight crews based on TSA screening processes regarding airport employment and/or access to secure areas. You are the one who claimed the TSA properly and thoroughly screens everyone who has secure access to our airports all the way down to the burger and fries folks. You dismiss actual evidence of TSA screening negligence of flight school operations at the ownership and student level as changing the subject. Not all TSA employees are properly trained. I check the TSA website on a regular basis and have found on occasion to know more about their regulations than the people screening me. I tell them what the rules really are, and they subject me to a variety of additional screening for pointing out that they don't know what I do about their rules. These things are all related. I know it's impossible for you to admit you are wrong about this. The "no one contends the TSA is infallible" is lip service CYA on your part. You've done nothing but suggest that everything they do is right and proper.
I've made my points plainly and directly, with links and references. Clearly you don't understand what I'm saying. Maybe bullets help you:
  • After weeks of trying, you've still not given us anything to support your claim that the modern full-body scanners now deployed at American airports have not been properly tested (unfounded paranoia is not support).

  • I've shown you the links which conclusively prove that the scanners now deployed at airports throughout the USA are safe to human health. You either didn't read them or don't believe them.

  • After weeks of trying, you've still not given us anything to support your claim that most of the employees at airports like ATL are security screened by contractors, not the government.

  • I've given you the link to a TSA website showing that TSA screens every airport worker. You either didn't read it or won't believe it.
I don't care to repeat myself this much. If you have something beyond, well, more paranioa to refute my points, post it. Otherwise I should just move on.
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