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Are dollar tips for cocktail waitress still the norm?

MaxFlavor

Nov 9, 2024
6:22am

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

If taxes on tips were eliminated, we wouldn't have to worry one way or the other, because the resulting Trump deficit would make it impossible for anyone to afford to go to Vegas, or to their local restaurant, for that matter.

I've yet to see the logic of not taxing tip income. What's so special about it that it shouldn't be taxed? I pay taxes on MY income.

(Of course, this was just a pandering gesture by Trump to try to buy votes, and since he plans to run the US like he runs his businesses--don't pay the bills--I guess another couple trillion added to the deficit doesn't matter that much.)

If I'm tipping with my taxed dollars and the service person is allowed to earn it tax-free, I think I'd tip 25% less, I'm a consistent 20% tipper, I would start tipping 15%. That's is my point, I should have written a better explanation.

I agree. Why do people want to start carving out special groups of workers to give targeted tax breaks to? I would like to see a more simplified tax code, not one that has multiple carve-outs for different industries.

Kevin Lewis

Nov 9, 2024
9:14am

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Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

If I'm tipping with my taxed dollars and the service person is allowed to earn it tax-free, I think I'd tip 25% less, I'm a consistent 20% tipper, I would start tipping 15%. That's is my point, I should have written a better explanation.

I agree. Why do people want to start carving out special groups of workers to give targeted tax breaks to? I would like to see a more simplified tax code, not one that has multiple carve-outs for different industries.

Another simple fact is that a tax exemption on tips would depress wages, as employers would realize that tipped employees' incomes had increased proportionately. For instance, a person who makes $100 a shift in tips would now be making about $20 a day more, effectively, which would be equivalent to a $2.50 an hour raise.

PJ Stroh

Nov 9, 2024
11:59am

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Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

If I'm tipping with my taxed dollars and the service person is allowed to earn it tax-free, I think I'd tip 25% less, I'm a consistent 20% tipper, I would start tipping 15%. That's is my point, I should have written a better explanation.

I agree. Why do people want to start carving out special groups of workers to give targeted tax breaks to? I would like to see a more simplified tax code, not one that has multiple carve-outs for different industries.

I feel like most people who work off tips dont get taxed much anyway because they are lower income. But Vegas has lots of people who make six digit incomes with tips....in which case I dont want to help them because they dont need it.

There's a group in the middle there somewhere that I would support helping - but I dont know the size.

I dont expect it to make the final cut of Trump's tax plan but then again I dont consider myself an expert on their policy making.

Kevin Lewis

Nov 9, 2024
3:45pm

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Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

I feel like most people who work off tips dont get taxed much anyway because they are lower income. But Vegas has lots of people who make six digit incomes with tips....in which case I dont want to help them because they dont need it.

There's a group in the middle there somewhere that I would support helping - but I dont know the size.

I dont expect it to make the final cut of Trump's tax plan but then again I dont consider myself an expert on their policy making.

He might not do it, simply because either he or his handlers realize that they don't need to buy votes any more.

MaxFlavor

Nov 9, 2024
5:23pm

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Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

I feel like most people who work off tips dont get taxed much anyway because they are lower income. But Vegas has lots of people who make six digit incomes with tips....in which case I dont want to help them because they dont need it.

There's a group in the middle there somewhere that I would support helping - but I dont know the size.

I dont expect it to make the final cut of Trump's tax plan but then again I dont consider myself an expert on their policy making.

I agree, probably won't happen, but it's a fun thought experiment. That being said I would go to 15%.

In Colorado, some restaurants charge service fees because sharing tips with the back of the house is illegal and they want to share in the success with everyone who works there. We went to the Denver Art Museum today for a Maurice Sendak exhibit, he's most famous for my kid's favorite book as small children, "Where the Wild Things Are", and we stopped into a Filipino/Mexican fusion place. They charged a 5% service fee on the bill, so I tipped 15%. Great food by the way.