F1 Extortion

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Count me in that group of regulars that aren't going.   I decided to try Reno for my fall gambling trip that historically has been in Vegas for the last 2 decades.    My last two trips to Vegas have been an exercise in disappointment. 


You'll be amazed at how much better everything is in Reno. The weather will still be nice, and you should drive up to Tahoe.

 

Reno still has value, decent gambling, good food, etc. And it doesn't feel like you're being gouged at every turn. Also, it's a much, much, much friendlier town.

Reno/Tahoe closer for me. I will still give Las Vegas a few more years.

so many memories Started when I worked there 1960,s for 

a few months. Then when my best friend moved there in 

the 1990,s Sence then she passed away. During that

time two three times a year. Always stayed at a hotel when

you could get a bargain. So I have stayed in probably 90 percent of Las Vegas hotels.Now usually only once a year with my son he

gets lot of match points because he travel a lot for work

So Kevin have a great time in Reno beautiful area if you drive from Tahoe

to Reno.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Count me in that group of regulars that aren't going.   I decided to try Reno for my fall gambling trip that historically has been in Vegas for the last 2 decades.    My last two trips to Vegas have been an exercise in disappointment. 


Isn't America wonderful?  When you don't like you're options, you move on to something better.  I don't like Vegas as much as I used to, but it's not Vegas' job to make me happy.  Their job is to make money for the business that they work for.  If you're not their target market and you don't like their product, move on.

 

Those who imply that Vegas casinos, or any business, is obligated to satisfy any individual's needs are quite self absorbed, in my opinion.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Isn't America wonderful?  When you don't like you're options, you move on to something better.  I don't like Vegas as much as I used to, but it's not Vegas' job to make me happy.  Their job is to make money for the business that they work for.  If you're not their target market and you don't like their product, move on.

 

Those who imply that Vegas casinos, or any business, is obligated to satisfy any individual's needs are quite self absorbed, in my opinion.


Well, that's a pretty stupid point of view, because their job IS in fact to make us happy, and if they don't, we won't pay for their shit any more.

 

The fact that they're getting a short-term idiot lemming rush doesn't change that. Five years from now, they'll be looking around saying, "Where is everybody?"--the people they drove away today.


Maybe  the customers that are unhappy with the way  vegas is treating them right now should start a Bub Light type thing on  them. There are other places to go,Reno,AC,New Orleans and plenty of others.most states have casinos in them.

I think most of you are missing the point of visiting Las Vegas. It's not just about gambling. Vegas has always been a go-to destination for fun, sun, pools, entertainment, and food, especially buffets. And it used to be affordable and special. Now, it's mostly a place to party. 

 

In the past, you could find bargains and steals in Vegas. You were treated like a VIP in many respects, with hotel and dining offers galore. There was no gouging and greed like there is now.

 

But those days are gone. They're never going to return. Resort fees are now the norm, and hotel Wi-Fi is often limited to one or two devices. Vegas is no longer an affordable vacation destination, and it's not as special as it used to be. But, it still has its charm and prestige, like Hawaii. Everybody looks at you in awe when you say you've been to Vegas. 

 

I think this is why profits are so high in Las Vegas. The corporations that run the city know how people think now and are able to extract as much money as possible from tourists. And they're not going to stop any time soon. Just like with the prices at the grocery stores and greedflation. They know they can charge whatever they want and get away with it too. They'll just deflect blame to inflation while their profits are at an all-time high as well.  

 

So what does this mean for us commoners? It means we're going to have to stay home and reminisce about the good old days of Las Vegas. Or, if you're really privileged, you'll continue to invest in crypto, the stock market, and real estate. But for the rest of us, Vegas is just out of reach. I have no inclination to vist Reno, it's just not Vegas. New Orleans? Well, I'm too old now to flash my bobs, lol. 

 

The takeaway for me is the greed of the corporations that run Vegas have turned it into a playground for the privileged and classists. Much like Monaco and Macau have for the Asian and EU markets. The rest of us are just being priced out. The F1 demographics is booming, especially within North America amongst the classists. There's no denying this fact. This will only bring more people to Vegas. You either go with the flow, or you stay at home and stream old Vegas movies and series on your favorite streaming service. 

Edited on Sep 1, 2023 8:43pm
Originally posted by: Boilerman

Isn't America wonderful?  When you don't like you're options, you move on to something better.  I don't like Vegas as much as I used to, but it's not Vegas' job to make me happy.  Their job is to make money for the business that they work for.  If you're not their target market and you don't like their product, move on.

 

Those who imply that Vegas casinos, or any business, is obligated to satisfy any individual's needs are quite self absorbed, in my opinion.


I believe the terms "selfish" and "self-absorbed" are being used haphazardly, inappropriately, and inaccurately. Since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, it seems that many individuals have become somewhat one-dimensional in their thinking. Some, particularly those who are more privileged, even go so far as to defend the actions of corporations, such as what you're currently doing.

 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with expressing our frustrations; in fact, it's a healthy way to cope. Las Vegas was once a fantastic place, and there's nothing amiss in voicing our anger in the hopes that a corporate executive might genuinely empathize and choose to honor the memories of those who frequented Vegas in the past. This is often how positive changes come about. Labelling these individuals as self-absorbed speaks more to the mindset of those who think like the privileged, doesn't it?

Originally posted by: Sally_Ann

I believe the terms "selfish" and "self-absorbed" are being used haphazardly, inappropriately, and inaccurately. Since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, it seems that many individuals have become somewhat one-dimensional in their thinking. Some, particularly those who are more privileged, even go so far as to defend the actions of corporations, such as what you're currently doing.

 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with expressing our frustrations; in fact, it's a healthy way to cope. Las Vegas was once a fantastic place, and there's nothing amiss in voicing our anger in the hopes that a corporate executive might genuinely empathize and choose to honor the memories of those who frequented Vegas in the past. This is often how positive changes come about. Labelling these individuals as self-absorbed speaks more to the mindset of those who think like the privileged, doesn't it?


For Boilerman, you have to realize rhat his opinions a) aren't entirely genuine b) are distorted by a particularly bizarre political mindset, which like some kind of toxic fungus, seeps into everything he says and does.

 

Wanting to get what we had before is hardly selfish. The sad fact is that those who are perfectly willing to, not to put too fine a point on it, pay insane foolhardy prices for complete shit outnumber those of us who care about the worth of a dollar. So we're being outbid by the idiots.

 

The classic way to counter this sort of nonsense is to join the ranks of those who are fleecing the idiots. But while the idea of setting up a stand with an umbrella and selling $18 beers to drooling moron twentysomethings is not without a certain appeal, I don't want to make my living from people's (copiously abundant) stupidity and gullibility. Maybe I'll buy some stock in Oink Oink Casinos and watch it quintuple in value.

Originally posted by: Sally_Ann

I think most of you are missing the point of visiting Las Vegas. It's not just about gambling. Vegas has always been a go-to destination for fun, sun, pools, entertainment, and food, especially buffets. And it used to be affordable and special. Now, it's mostly a place to party. 

 

In the past, you could find bargains and steals in Vegas. You were treated like a VIP in many respects, with hotel and dining offers galore. There was no gouging and greed like there is now.

 

But those days are gone. They're never going to return. Resort fees are now the norm, and hotel Wi-Fi is often limited to one or two devices. Vegas is no longer an affordable vacation destination, and it's not as special as it used to be. But, it still has its charm and prestige, like Hawaii. Everybody looks at you in awe when you say you've been to Vegas. 

 

I think this is why profits are so high in Las Vegas. The corporations that run the city know how people think now and are able to extract as much money as possible from tourists. And they're not going to stop any time soon. Just like with the prices at the grocery stores and greedflation. They know they can charge whatever they want and get away with it too. They'll just deflect blame to inflation while their profits are at an all-time high as well.  

 

So what does this mean for us commoners? It means we're going to have to stay home and reminisce about the good old days of Las Vegas. Or, if you're really privileged, you'll continue to invest in crypto, the stock market, and real estate. But for the rest of us, Vegas is just out of reach. I have no inclination to vist Reno, it's just not Vegas. New Orleans? Well, I'm too old now to flash my bobs, lol. 

 

The takeaway for me is the greed of the corporations that run Vegas have turned it into a playground for the privileged and classists. Much like Monaco and Macau have for the Asian and EU markets. The rest of us are just being priced out. The F1 demographics is booming, especially within North America amongst the classists. There's no denying this fact. This will only bring more people to Vegas. You either go with the flow, or you stay at home and stream old Vegas movies and series on your favorite streaming service. 


Reno, being just not like Vegas...well, that's kinda the point at this juncture, isn't it?? Also, you have gorgeous scenery just an hour away...while in Vegas, you have a mountain covered with pine trees and beer bottles.

 

And Vegas's profits are so high because they've decided to slaughter the sheep rather than shear them, which is utterly antithetical to the way Vegas used to be, or any sane business should be, run.

I just returned from Vegas ( slap me, beat me, make me write more hot checks). Just a few years ago, competent visitors could use a garden trowel or small spade shovel and uncover some bargains and values regarding all aspects of Vegas visitation. Nowadays, one needs a D9 backhoe and a few sticks of dynamite to uncover 'deals', particularly for gamblers. There's still a few left, but you'll need a miner's helmet and a large modicum of perseverance. We still had some semblances of fun, once we washed the soil out of our eyes. *shrug*

Edited on Sep 2, 2023 2:10pm
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