MGM -111 / -109 Leans

MGM -111 / -109 Leans MGM books have recently begun using a way of posting lines, especially early in the week, that have a lean to them. It may be an attempt to steer bigger bettors (translated = more aware of the market lines) to them or away from them on certain games. Current MGM Leans include: 119 Buff -1.5 -111 148 Oregon -23 -111 166 TCU -2 -111 170 Nevada -6.5 -111 226 Denver -12.5 -111 231 Seattle -11 -111 Earlier in the week there were many more games at -111/-109 but the book may have established their desired position and removed the lean. Pinnacle does this as well. They will offer one cent less or more on a side to draw or deter action on a specific game. If MGM wants you to bet a side with them they will offer -109 when the rest of the market is -110. The other side is then -111 so that is an indication they'd rather you walk across the street and lay -110 at a different book. This may not be a wise thing to do for MGM because many casual bettors will not care for, nor understand, why they have to pay more to bet on public teams like Oregon or Denver and it may frustrate them. It has been suggested to me by another full-time LV bettor that this is more of an internal thing than anything else. A sort of code for the supervisor on duty to move a line if they catch action on the shaded side but hold the line on the other side. If that is the case then they really are not well-thought out over there. The -111 annoyance to the recreational bettor is not worth the convenience of coding their lines to avoid a sup from having to think about what to do after a big bet. On the other hand, my questioning of a supervisor as to why this is being done resulted in a blank stare similar to what you get when you wave a shiny object in front of an idiot. Maybe coding is necessary.
Most supervisors at the MGM are completely oblivious to anything related to their lines.
They don't need to be. It's all controlled elsewhere. What is the median bet size for a ploppy? What percentage of action is by "professionals"? I'd like to think they considered these things before making this decision. (Therefore, median bet size is $100, so no coins if -111/-109, or more than 50% of handle is from pros. I don't think either of these are true.) Continuing on this devil's advocate bent, maybe they are just running an experiment to see what happens. If I were them, I'd do -112/-108 to make a $50 bet have no coins. (This no-coins thing is a big deal IMO in terms of usability.) Can books offer -110 to cardholders and -111 to non-cardholders? You can already save a dollar on a buffet with a card. Or is this against gaming commission regulations? I am sure they could work around this with free MP coupons, etc.
What you are proposing (perk for using a card) is a really good idea and is something Anthony has been considering from an LVA coupon angle. I don't think there is anything, regulation-wise, that would prevent it. As far as experimenting, I would expect it to be sort of shrugged off by those getting the bargain at -109 but remembered unfavorably by the -111 bettors. I had not considered the coins aspect. A $50 win bet would cost either $55.50 or $54.50. Doesn't matter much online but with real money it's a little messy.

think its got something to do with the way Cris have their numbers in the last 2 months- they have a new robot that moves when they get a limit bet - reason they have robot is not to get double pooped and you get still get your bet at number although 2-3 cent diff if you are second to the punch - wanted to be like pinny can see some of Cris's numbers with all sorts of juice attached - must drive alot of the old school credit guys mental...
No -111/ -109 lines to start the week at MGM. Will keep an eye on their numbers to see if they go to the leans at some point. Did they realize how awkward it was when someone bet to win $70 and got charged 77.70 for their ticket?
for straight cash its a nightmare and already mentioned is explaining it to bettors who are getting confused by it ....plenty o f the tourist crowd etc