Don, You play good machines, so you must have some winning months. We visitors get skipped over for quarterly comp room/freeplay mailers after a winning trip. Do months where a local wins impact your mailers?
Don, You play good machines, so you must have some winning months. We visitors get skipped over for quarterly comp room/freeplay mailers after a winning trip. Do months where a local wins impact your mailers?
Originally posted by: AKQJ10
Don, You play good machines, so you must have some winning months. We visitors get skipped over for quarterly comp room/freeplay mailers after a winning trip. Do months where a local wins impact your mailers?
I was wondering that, too, since my experience with them, over two decades, has been that if I book any significant win in a quarter, I get a lousy mailer or often, none at all. Only after getting pounded through the floor have I ever received any quarterly offers even remotely close to what Don and Mrs. Don seem to be getting every month.
Of course, that disparity is no surprise, given SP's long-standing market approach. Stations says "WE LOVE LOCALS" and they mean it--in the same way that orcas love seals--but South Point says "WE HATE TOURISTS." I guess their business model has been predicated on the assumption that no scumbag turista will ever wander that far away from the Strip, so why bother marketing to them, which dovetails with their decision to tell LVA to go pound sand.
Kevin, for what it's worth, we've been treated fairly well at SP (we're in Florida). Clearly better after a losing trip (that seems to be common knowledge), but never badly. They have a history of not sending out a lot of mailers, although we've gotten a few in the past couple of years. As for locals vs tourists, though, they do have a pretty big hotel; a lot of that probably supports the big equestrian and convention business, but I imagine that they must have had tourists in mind.
SP is always packed due to their friendly gambling, cheap or free entertainment, inexpensive good or great (Michaels) food, movie theater, bowling alley and equestrian/bowling/comvention business.
So why give out coupons?
So when you say "concentrate your play," does that mean that you play on each card whatever is necessary to qualify for a promo, and then any further play will be on one card, with each of you playing with duplicates of that "boss" card? Do you routinely put in play over and above whatever it takes to get the promo amount?
The mailer bennies you mention--are they on your "boss" card alone or combined? What's your coin-in to get those mailers at that level? And...does the quality of your mailer appear to be influenced by your recent results?
The reason I'm asking all this is that I play solo, and I'm wondering how many hours I'd need to put in to reach your mailers level. Obviously, you're able to generate twice the playing hours that I can. I would generally play at .25, but I suppose I could up it to .50--but game selection isn't quite as good at that level, and I would be concerned about higher volatility in terms of absolute amounts.
Thanks for any insight you can offer. Those bennies you're getting are much better than anything they've ever offered me, even with heavy play. But that could be because you're a local.Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
We normally put 10,000 points or more each time we play on the "boss" card. That seems to be the magic number to generate the good mailer.
The mailer mentioned is for the "boss" card only. The secondary card gets a much smaller mailer.
Yesterday's results - 6 spins - 2,500 points (2x), $10 FP (2x), $15 FP and 10,000 points.
Month to date - $207.50 value = .38% return.
Note -for whatever reason on one of our cards it spun at a much lower amount of points. We got 3 spins with 8,495 points. But for the calculations above I used 9,000 points
Today's results - 6 spins = 2,500 points (2x), 5,000 points,10,000 points (2x) and $25 FP. This equates to a .64% return and it raised our overall return to .45%.
One of our cards continues to spin at >3,000 points. Today it was 8,780 points to get the three spins.
Friday continued to have good results on the spins. Results were $10 FP (2x), $15 FP, $25 FP (2x) and 10,000 points. This totals $115 and equates to a .64% return. Month-to-date return is now .49%.
And the one card continued to spin at less than 3,000 points.
Originally posted by: Don the Dentist
Friday continued to have good results on the spins. Results were $10 FP (2x), $15 FP, $25 FP (2x) and 10,000 points. This totals $115 and equates to a .64% return. Month-to-date return is now .49%.
And the one card continued to spin at less than 3,000 points.
Thanks Don for keeping us informed - much appreciated.
Originally posted by: Don the Dentist
Friday continued to have good results on the spins. Results were $10 FP (2x), $15 FP, $25 FP (2x) and 10,000 points. This totals $115 and equates to a .64% return. Month-to-date return is now .49%.
And the one card continued to spin at less than 3,000 points.
This conforms to yet another pattern I've observed, that their monthly promos that are based on wheel spins start out comparatively meager and get better as the month rolls on. I'm guessing that's because they allocate X dollars to the promo and usually overdo that (just in case), so as the month winds down, they still have a goodly portion of that allocation to give away.
South Point definitely marches to the beat of its own drummer, or maybe drunken kazoo player, but once you discern the patterns of how they operate, they're fairly predictable.
Thanks again for all your detailed info.
