Yesterday's results - Mrs. Don $15 FP & $10 FP. I did even worse 2,500 points twice, which equates to $15 FP.
YTD is $60 for Mrs. and $40 for me. If my math is correct (100/24,000) that's a .42% return which makes the NSUD slighltly positive.
Yesterday's results - Mrs. Don $15 FP & $10 FP. I did even worse 2,500 points twice, which equates to $15 FP.
YTD is $60 for Mrs. and $40 for me. If my math is correct (100/24,000) that's a .42% return which makes the NSUD slighltly positive.
Originally posted by: Don the Dentist
Yesterday's results - Mrs. Don $15 FP & $10 FP. I did even worse 2,500 points twice, which equates to $15 FP.
YTD is $60 for Mrs. and $40 for me. If my math is correct (100/24,000) that's a .42% return which makes the NSUD slighltly positive.
I'm particularly interested in whether as before, the average prize increases during the final few days of the promo.
Yesterday's results were the worst so far. Mrs. Don and I each got 2,500 points and $10 FP.
Went there this morning. Better results. Mrs. Don $10 FP and $15 FP. I got $25 FP and $10 FP.
YTD results of $195 for four visits yields a return of .41%, which makes playing the NSUDs slightly positive.
Adding to my post above, I forgot the "regular" .15% cash back. This makes the total return .56%.
Can someone please verify my math? I think I did it right...
Originally posted by: Don the Dentist
Adding to my post above, I forgot the "regular" .15% cash back. This makes the total return .56%.
Can someone please verify my math? I think I did it right...
Are you sure you're playing 100 per cent optimum play?
Originally posted by: Don the Dentist
Adding to my post above, I forgot the "regular" .15% cash back. This makes the total return .56%.
Can someone please verify my math? I think I did it right...
If in four visits, you and Mrs. played $3,000 each, that's $24,000 total coin-in. If your aggregate promo return is $195, then you're getting 0.81% before the "regular" points are considered. Seems unlikely.
I assume you're valuing the promo points you received by the cashback they can be turned into?
So to be able to accurately answer your question:
1. What's your total coin-in so far?
2. How much cashback and how many points were you awarded?
You're correct, obviously, that .15% should be added back in to get the true total return. However, I would add the cash value of whatever promo mailers you received, surmising that you only play there during promo periods.
Originally posted by: Boris Radtke
Are you sure you're playing 100 per cent optimum play?
My guess is that anyone who pays as close attention to their overall return, as Don does, also plays the games optimally. NSUD isn't all that difficult, anyway, to play correctly. Only about 0.02% of the 99.73% return comes from penalty card considerations.
Kevin - its 3,000 points, not $3,000 coin-in. It's $6,000 coin-in to get the two spins.
In any event, your theory of the prizes getting bigger at the end of the month seems to be accurate for Mrs. Don and I.
Wednesday (1/21) - Me - 25,000 points and 2,500 points. Mrs. Don $50 FP and 5,000 points. Value $147.50.
Friday (1/23) - Me - 5,000 points and $25 FP. Mrs. Don 5,000 points and 10,000 points. Value $85.
YTD results for both combined - $427.50 earned in seven trips. So 7 x $12,000 coin-in = $84,000. $427.50/84,000 = .51%. Add in the .15% "nornal return" and the total return is .66%. This makes playing the NSUD worth 99.73% + .66% = 100.39%. Plus any mailers generated. Plus comps from the hosts.
Originally posted by: Don the Dentist
Kevin - its 3,000 points, not $3,000 coin-in. It's $6,000 coin-in to get the two spins.
In any event, your theory of the prizes getting bigger at the end of the month seems to be accurate for Mrs. Don and I.
Wednesday (1/21) - Me - 25,000 points and 2,500 points. Mrs. Don $50 FP and 5,000 points. Value $147.50.
Friday (1/23) - Me - 5,000 points and $25 FP. Mrs. Don 5,000 points and 10,000 points. Value $85.
YTD results for both combined - $427.50 earned in seven trips. So 7 x $12,000 coin-in = $84,000. $427.50/84,000 = .51%. Add in the .15% "nornal return" and the total return is .66%. This makes playing the NSUD worth 99.73% + .66% = 100.39%. Plus any mailers generated. Plus comps from the hosts.
I'm not certain, but I think that gaming regulations are that if a casino announces they're giving away $X, they do in fact have to give it all away. So my guess is they set the goal fairly high and then juice up the promo during the last week to make sure they get there.
Isn't it $1 coin-in = 1 point?