South Point July Promotion

Received the mailers yesterday. Redeem your "normal" free play Mon, Tues or Wed and get the same amount again on Fri or Sat. If you do this all four weeks in the month then you get double your normal free play on 7/31 or 8/1.

 

Good for locals, not so good for out-of-towners.

Thanks for the info! It's really &*($# annoying that they never announce their promos ahead of time, so you can't plan a trip around a promo. And since they don't award free play to out-of-towners (except maybe those who get pounded through the floor), and 2 x 0 = 0, ain't no reason for us un-local scumbags to go there this month. Especially since it's pizza-oven time in Vegas.

 

I think it's odd that they're laser-focused on good deals for locals and giving tourists nothing extra except perhaps a kick in the nuts. They have a pretty big hotel and have periodic events like all the horsie stuff to attract visitors. Maybe they've calculated that that alone will do it, and they don't need to offer anything extra to attract un-locals. I know that my comps have dried up to nothing despite a fairly steady history of play. Oh well.

I have to agree with Kevin. I don't understand why the out-of-towners are treated this way. There are 2,163 rooms in the hotel to fill.

 

True they have plenty of "events" going on. Right now its the women bowlers. I have seen archery tournaments, all sorts of rodeo stuff, etc. Guess they fill the rooms that way.

Originally posted by: Don the Dentist

I have to agree with Kevin. I don't understand why the out-of-towners are treated this way. There are 2,163 rooms in the hotel to fill.

 

True they have plenty of "events" going on. Right now its the women bowlers. I have seen archery tournaments, all sorts of rodeo stuff, etc. Guess they fill the rooms that way.


I agree with Kevin also.  I don't get it with Southpoint and the lack of interest in out-of-towners.  Especially ones like me who are very very loyal to them.  Was just there in June and it wasn't even worth my time to collect the "cooler" I earned this week.  Whoopee.  Would it kill them to announce their promos one quarter in advance?  

 

Poker room is the same way Kevin.  Take a look at the "earn hours and earn $" promotion which is now a weekly thing.  I thought it would be OK for out of towners like me versus the normal useless quarterly free roll one.  So lets say even if I got 30 hours in this week (which I didn't with wife on trip) and left before Sat at 3pm, (which I did)  I asked if I could tell them I'm done for the week and collect. They said no, you have to be here Saturday at 3pm to get the $100 for 30 hours or $200 for 40 hours.  Huh?  Great casino and I mean great casino with management and employees but they couldn't care less about out of towners.  Don't think they need them besides the normal sporting events they have there.  And why wouldn't you rather have guys like me in the poker room versus the old fossils that just sit there 50+ hours a week and play 3 hands an hour to drain the max promo $'s.  


Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

I agree with Kevin also.  I don't get it with Southpoint and the lack of interest in out-of-towners.  Especially ones like me who are very very loyal to them.  Was just there in June and it wasn't even worth my time to collect the "cooler" I earned this week.  Whoopee.  Would it kill them to announce their promos one quarter in advance?  

 

Poker room is the same way Kevin.  Take a look at the "earn hours and earn $" promotion which is now a weekly thing.  I thought it would be OK for out of towners like me versus the normal useless quarterly free roll one.  So lets say even if I got 30 hours in this week (which I didn't with wife on trip) and left before Sat at 3pm, (which I did)  I asked if I could tell them I'm done for the week and collect. They said no, you have to be here Saturday at 3pm to get the $100 for 30 hours or $200 for 40 hours.  Huh?  Great casino and I mean great casino with management and employees but they couldn't care less about out of towners.  Don't think they need them besides the normal sporting events they have there.  And why wouldn't you rather have guys like me in the poker room versus the old fossils that just sit there 50+ hours a week and play 3 hands an hour to drain the max promo $'s.  


What really pisses me off about that is, I have a principle that if promo money is taken out of your pots, then you should be eligible for whatever promo that money funds. But the opposite is true with that "earn" promo--as a visitor, you're subsidizing all those waiting-to-die geezers who are folding everything but suited aces to last as long as they can. I don't play poker in Vegas to pay for someone else's Depends.

 

Also irritating is the fact that their system keeps track of your hours automatically, so why couldn't they automatically credit free play or comps to your account in lieu of cash? Whether your ass was there at 3 in the bloody afternoon on Saturday or not? I'll bet that makes the room a madhouse then!

 

It's a real feeding frenzy now for poker, apparently. Even though every sucker at the WSOP is playing a game that's worse than nickel slots negative EV-wise, the lemmings are stuffing the poker rooms. The good (-ish) players tell themselves that they'll make a profit "with all that dead money," but the reality is that the house is the only one making money when they take out 18% + 3% mandatory tokes.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

What really pisses me off about that is, I have a principle that if promo money is taken out of your pots, then you should be eligible for whatever promo that money funds. But the opposite is true with that "earn" promo--as a visitor, you're subsidizing all those waiting-to-die geezers who are folding everything but suited aces to last as long as they can. I don't play poker in Vegas to pay for someone else's Depends.

 

Also irritating is the fact that their system keeps track of your hours automatically, so why couldn't they automatically credit free play or comps to your account in lieu of cash? Whether your ass was there at 3 in the bloody afternoon on Saturday or not? I'll bet that makes the room a madhouse then!

 

It's a real feeding frenzy now for poker, apparently. Even though every sucker at the WSOP is playing a game that's worse than nickel slots negative EV-wise, the lemmings are stuffing the poker rooms. The good (-ish) players tell themselves that they'll make a profit "with all that dead money," but the reality is that the house is the only one making money when they take out 18% + 3% mandatory tokes.


Totally agree with all that as well.  That really kind of irritated me.  I told the desk that makes no sense.  Now I didn't play 30 hour this trip so it didn't matter but that promo would basically chase me from that room if I did plan on playing that much.  

 

Oh and here is another beauty.  If you play at least 10 hours, which I did.....(think I played around 22), you get one drawing ticket per hour played.  They draw for additional cash prizes on what day do you think?????  Drumroll please.....yes, 3 pm on Saturday which is the same time you can start to cash in your $100 for 30 hours or $200 for 40 hours or $300 for 50 hours.  Some of the prizes are good too.  Like $500 up to $2000 I think so I'd have an OK chance to maybe win one.  If I do win one, I have one week to come back and retrieve it in person at the poker desk.  If not, it goes back in coffers. 

 

Their poker management is pretty decent.  I'm thinking of writing them an email and hopefully making them understand the room is terrible for out-of-towners and they are catering to the old fossils in the 3/6 game with no kill.  I hear these guys plotting out how to exploit the most out of these promotions when at a table when no 4/8 game is going on.  If you aren't sure which ones they are, just go in there in the morning and starting raising pre-flop or checking raising one of them.  

 

Many of other poker rooms in town are doing a lot of same stuff with promo $.  Play this many hours this week and the next week you get multipliers for your high hands, etc.  It is all just a bunch of garbage.  

Originally posted by: Don the Dentist

Received the mailers yesterday. Redeem your "normal" free play Mon, Tues or Wed and get the same amount again on Fri or Sat. If you do this all four weeks in the month then you get double your normal free play on 7/31 or 8/1.

 

Good for locals, not so good for out-of-towners.


So locals get regular free play each day to use Mon, Tues and Wed?  Or is it just a weekly amount you get to use one of those three days?  

 

My free play is $20 and I come about once a quarter.  $20 per trip.....impressive, huh?!?  So if there is a useless promo the month I come, why would my host expect me to play tons of VP?  And I'm not hammering NSUD to get 100.03% either.  I'm actually playing some more exciting games that the casino has an advantage on. 

 

As soon as these promos dry up completely at all casinos, I'm pretty much done with Vegas.  And that is sad.  

In July, you use your FP on one of three days (Mon-Tue-Wed) and then come back for the bonus on Fri or Sat.  Typically, the FP is available on Tue-Wed-Thur...you use it one time on one of those days.

Before we moved here, we used to get deals on rooms (comped).  Now that we are locals, we typically get $10-$20 FP per week plus $15+ on a food coupon, but we don't get deals for comped rooms.  I think that is the out-of-towner versus local trade-off although other locals may do better based on their play.

For all, the best deal of the year is in December (usually starting around mid-month), you an use your points for 40% off in restaurants or, as we do, in the gift shop to load up on wine and liquor for the year.

Originally posted by: Robert Hirst

In July, you use your FP on one of three days (Mon-Tue-Wed) and then come back for the bonus on Fri or Sat.  Typically, the FP is available on Tue-Wed-Thur...you use it one time on one of those days.

Before we moved here, we used to get deals on rooms (comped).  Now that we are locals, we typically get $10-$20 FP per week plus $15+ on a food coupon, but we don't get deals for comped rooms.  I think that is the out-of-towner versus local trade-off although other locals may do better based on their play.

For all, the best deal of the year is in December (usually starting around mid-month), you an use your points for 40% off in restaurants or, as we do, in the gift shop to load up on wine and liquor for the year.


That makes sense.  That clears some of it up for me.  Thanks

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