Well, the Palms is shit

VPFree2 reports a few (three, to be exact) machines with slightly positive games, and four 9/6 JOB machines. Do you know if those are still there?

I have a bit more trouble going there, knowlng what a fantastic place it used to be, than maybe someone who never knew it might now.

BTW it looks like the gas card promo went poof.

So I assume the sports book is under some umbrella; who is it? And I got a chuckle regarding the comp value of running 10K through video poker. That five bucks is in the ballpark of the usual sports comp ratio. Very sad. I'll spare the sports comp history lesson, but there was a time....

Palms was one of my favorite places, again, once upon a time.

I believe it's William Hill.

The one remaining casino that has good video poker AND a good slot club, meaning you can actually earn decent comps, is South Point. That 10K of action would earn you $30 there.

The Palms' base comp rate of a twentieth of one percent is an insult, and to me it says, "We don't want your ass here." So my ass won't be.

As of today the three 100% payback machines are in a new location but still there. Will report it to vpFREE2. No change to the four 9/6 JoB.

       Thanks for the current, correct update.

Stations has a history of shuffling their one or two banks of FPVP from one location within the casino to another. Given the labor costs of that, some wise and savvy suit in the slot department must make carefully calculated decisions as to where to put those machines for maximum...something.

It used to be that they'd "punish" people who wanted to play their best VP machines by placing them near exits and entrances, where you'd be pummeled by blasts of hot or cold air, depending on the season, and/or near where the smoke was the worst. Usually, those machines would be waaaaaaay at the back of a side corridor, like they were at the Palms a couple of years ago.

So maybe when the tribe bought the Palms, they decided to keep the suit-in-charge-of-shuffling-machines-around. Maybe those three machines will wind up in the men's restroom.

   I'll be in Vegas the 19th and am glad to know that these machines are still there at the Palms. There can never be enough full pay video poker machines available to play. Stations Casinos still have full pay video poker machines in all of their casinos and they are the reason I visit them. 

The casinos are still afraid to offer fullpay Deuces, though, even on the very very few machines that have positive games. Both Palms and Stations used to have .25 FPDW on those machines, but apparently, the crushing 0.76% edge that an expert player can obtain, leading to soaring, sky-high profits of as much as TEN WHOLE DOLLARS AN HOUR, was too much for them to endure.

FPDW can still be found at AZ Charlies Decatur and Boulder, and reports are, at Sam's Town. I'm sure those machines' days are numbered as well.

 According to vpFREE2 all Station casinos offer LDW (loose deuces wild), @ 100.15%, which is a positive video poker play. Granted, LDW pays less than full pay deuces ( which pays 100.76%) but LDW is still a positive play. I don't believe I would get my panties in a bunch over a difference of .61 %.

LDW has a much larger risk of ruin.