And when they are integrated -- Boulder Creek not Black Mountain, for instance -- it plays better. And at Paiute you have 3 18s!

One of the reasons Scottsdale/greater Phoenix is such an awesome golf destination is because of the many 36-hole offerings -- We-Ko-Pa, Boulders, Grayhawk, Talking Stick, Troon North, etc -- in addition to the one-shot offerings. 36 in a day always beats 18.