I'll be the first to admit most contribute far more than me. I am not trying to be more than I am. You do pose good ideas and many don't take much time to look into. I perhaps was getting defensive where I shouldn't have, not sure. I thought you were being critical of anyone saying anything negative whatsoever about the board. I have no problems at all with anyone on the board posting info or plays. Its almost as if you thought people were criticizing other members for not posting enough plays? How is it possible to complain about another member not posting plays, they don't have to post anything if they don't want to... As I said, my chief complaints came during NFL when Fez was absent during some stretches, not posting anything, as well as when he said no one can beat the lines, they are too tight. Other than those 2 main instances, I largely stand on the side. I've not been shy to name the services I buy, and mention that I am a relatively small bettor compared to many. Years of buying services with a medium sized bankroll has taught me many lessons. I love betting sports but I'd prefer to bet the games told to me by a winning pro in the industry. There aren't many but there are some, and that' sjust how I do it. I'd love to originate but I'm not that creative usually, which is what I think it takes to beat the oddsmakers.