All right, Starting TODAY, RAS kicks ass

Next year will be telling year for RAS. Nobody wants to hear that but I think it is very logical. Time will tell.

[QUOTE=Skeeter;39823]I don't buy it. [b]It wasn't not tight last year and somehow tight this year.[/b] He is up 100 units in 2 years and now he's down 5. Sure many, maybe all subscribers down more than that. If one is betting with even a half baked strategy one can"t have lost that much more. I'm not sure how someone bets his stuff effectively without Nevada outs but that is beside the point at least for me. Now the new record is up 95 units after 2.8 years 7-11 today obviously frustrating but in the big picture what can one objectively say? A poor day. Obviously, I'd be a lot smarter and so you would you be if we stopped betting him when he was up 23 units. And if I was really smart not only would I have stopped betting him I would have bet against him and now be up 53 units or whatever. Hard to be that smart though. If you think he's done, of course stop betting him. It is the right decision for you. This guy is 5% maybe 10% with sub optimal betting from his all time high if it was a stock and your units were consistent. That is the big picture. The little picture? His totals have stunk and they have stunk all year. Agreed.[/QUOTE] Stock market analogy doesn't work with the sports betting market (in regards to college hoops), because the sports betting market gets more difficult each year. And this year definitely is a LOT tighter than last year in regards to totals. All totals cappers will admit that, even if they are having a good year. Small samples are still small samples, but in sports betting you are forced to try and divine what the recent results might mean, because it definitely could be caused by a changing marketplace. The college hoops totals market 3-4 years ago was similar to the DotCom/tech boom in the stock market. RAS was one of the best analysts in that market, and that is a compelling reason to believe they are still one of the best bets in this new tougher market. But it's not realistic to look at those past results as a benchmark going forward.

Another clunker tonite, I don't know about everyone else but I am so depressed over the current RAS selections im about to throw in the towel on playing them.

[QUOTE=tgunn;39870]Another clunker tonite, I don't know about everyone else but I am so depressed over the current RAS selections im about to throw in the towel on playing them.[/QUOTE] I don't think you are the only one. Most of the totals aren't even close when they lose....and most of them are losing...sad to say.

[QUOTE=burger;39872]I don't think you are the only one. Most of the totals aren't even close when they lose....and most of them are losing...sad to say.[/QUOTE] especially since i play these totals @ double unit value, im sinking like the titanic. UGHHHH. I am tempted to fade, but I know the day I do he will go 9-1, 8-0 or the like. FML.

RAS is Done. He's Guessing now. His Model is Toast.

[QUOTE=BigPappa;39875]RAS is Done. He's Guessing now. His Model is Toast.[/QUOTE] BP, How long do you think a good model is good for? jk

[QUOTE=Skeeter;39816]When I bet a handicapper like RAS, Fez, etc. I am absolutely on vacation mentally. If they win me any money at all, I am grateful to them for the selections and they get all of the credit. I really have low expectations and can easily be satisfied. If they lose, I blame myself for betting them and they have nothing to do with it.[/QUOTE] Do you work for RAS or something? Your logic is ass backwards. "If they win me any money at all, I am grateful to them for the selections"????? I'm paying them to win for me. I'm paying them to do the work. I'm not a whale on here & not scared to admit that. I bet $50/unit for RAS. So when I pay 1250 for the CBK package, I'm already in the hole 25 units. For me to see any profit, I need him to finish up over 25 units. And if he finishes up 28 or 30 units, is it really worth my time fighting to get his releases and betting them? Not really. And we haven't even discussed the pain in the ass it is to try and fight to get the numbers, wait around for the timer, rarely get the exact number, etc... I've been a proponent for RAS on here in the past. but I'm as frustrated as most mid-level players. For me, the price for the services plus the hassle of the releases and the movement, is no longer worth the payoff. I'm very understanding when handicappers go through some ups and downs but I want to know why these totals are getting crushed by such large margins. I'm the client. We should be told. Another service I use for NFL went through a rough patch in totals earlier this season. We all were notified as to why it happened (the changes to the hit enforcement caused a spike in points scored and allowed). The guy who runs the site gave a very detailed and understandable explanation, explaining that they won before the rules changes but had been losing since then. He adjusted his computer model to account for it, and from that point on they crushed to end the season. That's how you treat clients. Explain it and fix it and then win. My confidence level is low on RAS right now. I still believe he can win but I don't know why he's not. I'll play the string out. I may be back next year, I just don't know right now. I just know that over the last few years RAS has made a lot of money selling these plays, and I've footed the bill for my share, and I feel I'm not getting the respect I deserve as a client.

[QUOTE=Kruger;39884]BP, How long do you think a good model is good for? jk[/QUOTE] I don't think you can put a time on a Model being worthy..My current NBA Totals Model has been doing very well now for 3.5 years and has actually had it's best year this year so far. But one has to adjust when the market changes and I think it has for CBB Totals. My own CBB Totals this year are just 43-37 and that is well down from previous recent years. I have made many fewer plays because of that and am wary about moving forward.. I know that one year should not mean panic but with everyone across the board having a sub-par year and the way we are seeing large variations in the way these games are playing out, it is at least time to consider a change or two..

I dont think I would pay $2500 for a service unless I was betting at least $1000. Maybe $500. That $2500 could go a lot further on good bonuses if someone is betting $50/bet. You can turn $2500 into $5000 in 3 months if you are a half blind monkey.