Do CBB Totals = BJ Card Counting Now?

Do CBB Totals = BJ Card Counting Now? Just curious. I know there are obvious differences in that they need a two way market for totals. But does anyone think the gig is over for CBB totals? Why would casinos continue to allow almost certain losses? Or are they losing? Seems to me someone trying to bet 5 dimes on Murray St total on Monday afternoon is an obvious pro just like a card counter doing his thing and they will defend against it (I'm not saying it's fair and that is another discussion). Just can't see casinos letting it continue unless they are actually making money somehow. Just curious what you pros think will happen this season.

You would think Cris or Olympic would pay someone who knows totals to set them.

players win with totals early, start losing with them in January. i dont see why books dont give them an early win and collect later

I do not think they care The market eventually will set them correctly. Use RAS or Helmut last year as example. They hit like 70% first 6weeks of season. Then the % catches up to them. The bottom line has been repeated by "redbull" every time this topic comes up: The screen books do not care-they take 1000. Its the skins who get crushed at the release #. In addition out of hundreds of releases last year less than a handful actually landed.

[QUOTE=jefff;8932]players win with totals early, start losing with them in January. i dont see why books dont give them an early win and collect later[/QUOTE] Much of the NCAA Hoops wins are early in the season -- by mid-January, the lines are sharp, whether sides or totals.

[QUOTE=lvmike32;8925]... just like a card counter doing his thing and they will defend against it (I'm not saying it's fair and that is another discussion). Just can't see casinos letting it continue unless they are actually making money somehow. /QUOTE] first and foremost, never and i mean never underestimate a casino's potential for lunacy. many, many times casinos make insanely poor decisions regarding players and what they may or may not be doing. secondly, most books tend to limit their losses by giving very low on cbb totals until after the jan 1.

[QUOTE=maximillion;8968]Much of the NCAA Hoops wins are early in the season -- by mid-January, the lines are sharp, whether sides or totals.[/QUOTE] yeah, that's what i said. or thought i was trying to say. cfb and cbb..players win early, books win their money back later

I don't think it will be so easy this year. Everyone killed last year on these. And the pattern should have, and probably did, get clear. If they haven't fixed their approach, if they haven't at least pretty much reverse-engineered RAS plays (and everyone else's, because I just hear that EVERYONE killed on these, myself included) then fuck them, they really are idiots. But the good books generally aren't idiots. Greek, Cris, Pinny, just generally aren't idiots. And no one else matters. It just isn't that hard. CBB totals aren't ... that ... hard. I mean, if we're ALL beating them, then it just can't be that hard. And I think there's no way it'll be the same game this year.