NCAA Thurs/Frid games

[QUOTE=Goats;19707]Why are you guys so upset over a couple posters accurately pointing out that Fezzik's posted record over the past year was not good? There was no bashing or name-calling, just a stating of the facts. Fezzik himself had someone audit his results and they came back negative. Furthermore, Fezzik has always been big on calling people out when they are losing (even those with posted records) and he self-admittedly isn't even always polite about it. Believe it or not, it's OK to say more than "Thanks Fez" or "This is a great site." There should be nothing wrong with a critical comment now and then provided it's accurate and civil.[/QUOTE] Actually, Fezzik is posting all over the place that Dreamer is a "Fezz Hater" who fabricated Fezzik's actual record by eliminating contest picks. It actually isn't ok to post more than "Thanks Fezz" because anything critical is promptly deleted. I'm almost certain that my posts in this thread are going to be zapped by Anthony even though they're completely civil. The post calling me a jackass has a higher chance of staying up.
[QUOTE=skrtelfan;19708]Actually, Fezzik is posting all over the place that Dreamer is a "Fezz Hater" who fabricated Fezzik's actual record by eliminating contest picks. It actually isn't ok to post more than "Thanks Fezz" because anything critical is promptly deleted. I'm almost certain that my posts in this thread are going to be zapped by Anthony even though they're completely civil. The post calling me a jackass has a higher chance of staying up.[/QUOTE] I wasn't aware of those other posts regarding Dreamer; they must be on boards I refuse to visit. If your prediction turns out to be true, then that's just sad given what Fez himself considers reasonable posting material at other forums.
Yes, they're on boards I suspect you don't visit. I've posted here explaining that a lot of the "Fezzik criticism" is due to that nonsense he posted on SSB criticizing StevieY while boasting about Fezzik's supposed "55% record" for the year and my posts have been deleted left and right. I had one deleted where I posted nothing more than "Fezzik thinks things he can't beat aren't beatable, like MLB." There was another one where some guy mentioned having a future bet that he took at horrific odds and another poster and I explained that the initial bet was bad, which was met with a torrent of criticism about how we were personally attacking the guy. The group-think on this board is nothing short of astonishing.
[QUOTE=OldTime'sSake;19701]A well deserved victory by St. Mary's, but they actually had to take an early time-out because Richmond opened the game on a 9-2 run. The Gaels didn't take their first lead until the second half.[/QUOTE] Duly noted. But St marys slowly but surely forced their will and controlled this game. They were clearly the better team and are showing how good they are. They are well balanced with a strong inside presence, good 3 point shooters, they can run or play slow down. Also a very good coach. This team is rock solid.

I believe it is somewhat hypocritical that the "ads" at the left boast about Fezzik's handicapping prowess in order to promote this site. Yet no record of Fezzik's plays are actually kept here under the rationalization that records are too ambiguous and subject to too much controversy due to line manipulation and line availability
All one needs to do to refute the idea that record-keeping is ambiguous is look at Fezzik's earliest days of posting public plays on SSB in 2001 or 2002. All plays were graded against widely available lines, and for certain plays when Fezzik said "play at gametime," he asked the subscribers what line they got. Several subscribers would chime in, someone with access to a DonBest line history might post a line history, and the play would be fairly graded. I recently read about two years worth of Fezzik plays over there and didn't see a single grading argument. Another example is Scott Kellen who I'm pretty sure was one of the "recommended handicappers" here before football season began. I've been subscribed to his service for 7 or 8 years and never once did I see him grade a play unfairly. This stuff is really simple--grade plays against WA numbers, meaning that a follower with a reasonable number of outs had a good chance of getting down on the play. Anything else is labeled NWA and kept as a separate record. Most of the "arguments" on the old LVA board involved Dan Gordon or David Matthews trying to grade a play at a number that was either only available at Pinnacle in the middle of the night or was only available at a single book. Obviously a subscriber has little chance of following a play only at one book since they'd need an account at that specific book and need to get there before someone else moved the line at that book. Fezzik had no problems following that "widely available" methodology years ago so I have no idea why it's such a concern now. The other argument that "this isn't a picks site" is kind of foolish considering that you only need to look at the MLB board that just opened, the first threads there are "which cappers am I supposed to follow." People are obviously here because they want to follow picks. In any event, I don't think there's much point debating this as Anthony's made it very clear that this isn't up for discussion and posts debating the policy will be deleted. It's just pretty ridiculous that when someone earlier in the thread questioned the logic behind one of Fezzik's plays and was immediately asked "What's your record?" when Anthony and Fezzik aren't interested in keeping records.
[QUOTE=BuckyBadger;19718]I believe it is somewhat hypocritical that the "ads" at the left boast about Fezzik's handicapping prowess in order to promote this site. Yet no record of Fezzik's plays are actually kept here under the rationalization that records are too ambiguous and subject to too much controversy due to line manipulation and line availability[/QUOTE] This says it all !!!!!!!!!
Fez had some pretty good stuff for football. Can't say I won betting them but always like to see what he has. Treading lightly for hoops was a no-brainer. It is just not his gig.
[QUOTE=BuckyBadger;19718]I believe it is somewhat hypocritical that the "ads" at the left boast about Fezzik's handicapping prowess in order to promote this site. Yet no record of Fezzik's plays are actually kept here under the rationalization that records are too ambiguous and subject to too much controversy due to line manipulation and line availability[/QUOTE] I agree 100% with this.
I would love to drop this as I see no +EV out of this. Can't we just all get along and make some money?