Shooter's 3/13 CBB

Have posted thanks to you before, but again Thanks! I haven't posted thanks lately, sorry... mainly to keep your thread from being too, too long. Nipsy
I don't get any of this. It's not a competition. Same goal. Lots of contributors.
[QUOTE=Shooter;18863]Geez, I sure know where I am on the pecking order. I've been posting college hoops winners since NOVEMBER and all of a sudden no one gives a fuck. I don't get 20 compliments in my thread like Fezzik does for posting a couple good winners. And I'm not begrudging him of those. However, there are others who deserve a little recognition once in a while. I am 87-49-2, 64%!!! the last 5 days on sides. Do you people know how hard that is to do especially this time of year? I'm not well connected in Vegas with big time gamblers and don't have market movers and sharps feeding me plays like Fezzik does. I'm just an average guy who continues to post winners and no one appreciates it at all. All I do is get grief for how many plays I post, or if a line is a half a point different. With everything I've done so far this year and have posted every single day, and I get 51 views. Fuck You![/QUOTE] If I may... I think the difference could possibly be that almost all of Fezzik's plays are both posted at W/A lines and in a timely fashion. Whereas several of your plays are posted very close (if not after) to the posted starting time and in most cases not at widely available lines. In fact one would argue that several of your plays are posted at lines that weren't W/A within 30-60 minutes of your posts which makes it hard to believe that you even got wagers down for yourself at the lines you posted. The most current instance of this would be a couple of days ago when you posted the W.Mich/C.Mich RAS UNDER release of 131.5 27 minutes after his release. You claimed that you get his releases on your phone thru an email and then put in your wagers and then post them here. It is virtually impossible to get an RAS release on a total thru a phone email, log into your betting account, find the game, enter your wager info, and get the released number. You have literally 1-2 seconds if you are logged into the countdown screen to get the released number. In the W.Mich/C.Mich example above it would grade a winner at 131.5 but the game landed on 129 which for 90%+ of the public (and 100% of those retrieving the info off email on their phones) this would have been a push at best. Yet at your "fairy tale" numbers it is a winner. The other major difference as you stated is the sheer magnitude of games. Many don't feel comfortable (or have the ability or time) to bet 100+ games a day at times. It is very time consuming and I think that attributes to why Fezz is much more popular because 5-10 plays is a normal daily sample size when he is posting so it is just that much easier for one to feel like they got "all his plays" that he posted. Whereas if someone was to be a staunch supporter and Shooter follower I could see it being very irritating because it would seem natural to miss some of your plays during the day just because of the sheer magnitude of them. If someone is following someone they hate the feeling of "missing" some of their plays as it turns into a "I always miss his winners and never miss his losers" scenario. Plus don't discount the fact that Fezz reputation is a longtime consistant winner. That adds a lot as well. While I am very impressed that you are able to show winning records with your HUGE volume of daily plays...and I am....I have to discount (and I feel many others do as well hence your attention seeking this morning) some of your value because of the fact that you use fairy tale lines and I doubt you even get the wagers in at the lines you post. Regardless those facts.... I think it is amazing the job you do picking ATS even at non existant numbers and hope you all the best in the world in the future. Good Luck
[QUOTE=anthony;18875]I don't get any of this. It's not a competition. Same goal. Lots of contributors.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry Anthony. I am not trying to compete. It's just that I have a career and allot time out of my day every day to make sure I have plays posted. I am not a professional gambler. It takes a lot of time for me to do this and I just get frustrated and feel like I'm beating my head against a wall trying to earn respect.

Keep your head up shooter your a damn genius. You keep this forum going and lately i took your advice on a couple of sides and didnt go wrong. If you didnt post for few days everyone could see the difference. Do your thing dude.good luck
[QUOTE=burger;18877]If I may... I think the difference could possibly be that almost all of Fezzik's plays are both posted at W/A lines and in a timely fashion. Whereas several of your plays are posted very close (if not after) to the posted starting time and in most cases not at widely available lines. In fact one would argue that several of your plays are posted at lines that weren't W/A within 30-60 minutes of your posts which makes it hard to believe that you even got wagers down for yourself at the lines you posted. The most current instance of this would be a couple of days ago when you posted the W.Mich/C.Mich RAS UNDER release of 131.5 27 minutes after his release. You claimed that you get his releases on your phone thru an email and then put in your wagers and then post them here. It is virtually impossible to get an RAS release on a total thru a phone email, log into your betting account, find the game, enter your wager info, and get the released number. You have literally 1-2 seconds if you are logged into the countdown screen to get the released number. In the W.Mich/C.Mich example above it would grade a winner at 131.5 but the game landed on 129 which for 90%+ of the public (and 100% of those retrieving the info off email on their phones) this would have been a push at best. Yet at your "fairy tale" numbers it is a winner. The other major difference as you stated is the sheer magnitude of games. Many don't feel comfortable (or have the ability or time) to bet 100+ games a day at times. It is very time consuming and I think that attributes to why Fezz is much more popular because 5-10 plays is a normal daily sample size when he is posting so it is just that much easier for one to feel like they got "all his plays" that he posted. Whereas if someone was to be a staunch supporter and Shooter follower I could see it being very irritating because it would seem natural to miss some of your plays during the day just because of the sheer magnitude of them. If someone is following someone they hate the feeling of "missing" some of their plays as it turns into a "I always miss his winners and never miss his losers" scenario. Plus don't discount the fact that Fezz reputation is a longtime consistant winner. That adds a lot as well. While I am very impressed that you are able to show winning records with your HUGE volume of daily plays...and I am....I have to discount (and I feel many others do as well hence your attention seeking this morning) some of your value because of the fact that you use fairy tale lines and I doubt you even get the wagers in at the lines you post. Regardless those facts.... I think it is amazing the job you do picking ATS even at non existant numbers and hope you all the best in the world in the future. Good Luck[/QUOTE] They are not non-existent numbers. I'm sorry I can't live on this computer for YOUR benefit Burger. I do have a life of my own and have a full-time job and I can't always get on here the moment I place a bet. If you can't accept that, tough shit. So take your sarcasm and stick it. I've had to grin and bear your snide and snarky remarks for a long time, but no more. I could care less about Burger's respect since he has been an a-hole to me since I got here and I'm sure he's like that in his personal life as well.
That is 100% not true. I've been nothing but supportive and respective of you since you came on board. You were wondering why you weren't getting the "props" and "thank you's" that Fezz does and I told you why. I've always wished you nothing but the best. I agree with you when you say: [I]They are not non-existent numbers[/I]...You are correct somewhere in some cave a 85 year old long time phone bookie may have some of the lines you post but they are not widely available almost ever and that is part of the difference when you compare yourself to someone like Fezz. Good Luck to you and I wish you nothing but the best with your plays and attention.
fwiw you do post too many plays for my taste but love your passion and your record. everyone knows who the winners are here and you are one of them : )
Anthony i let the forum know earlier that the lvasport line service is down.
ACC SEMIFINAL #1: 525/526 Duke/Miami OV 60' 1st H (-108) 526 Duke (-11) (-115) Duke was flat yesterday and had a ho-hum performance vs. UVA. Miami is shooting 50% in this tournament. They actually take on a club that can defend today. I can see Miami getting down early and getting really down on themselves and getting chippy. Gotta agree on the Fezz total. Duke should shoot much better today.