Continued Warning to all about Offshore Accounts.

Seems fine. Here is a link that can help those shopping for books: [url]https://www.sportsbookreview.com/ratings+on+over+400+sportsbooks+/[/url]
Alarmist yes. Real, possibly. I would definitely monitor the offshore situation carefully, and make sure I don't have any runaway balances, especially with any book that has less than an "A-" rating via Sportsbookreview.com When I say less than A- rating, I mean less than an A- rating, meaning even B+ books can conceivably be dangerous. Betcascade was an B+ book and went down the tubes, stiffing people, WSEX was a B+ book and the same thing is happening. They were even A books at one time, and slid down the rating scale over a few months. ABC Islands, part of the DPT sportsbook group (Betruss, Jazzsports, Looselines) is another book that was a solid B/B+ book for years that is now experiencing slow pays, and will probably be out of business in several monthes, imo. I would recommend monitoring the offshore market through [URL="https://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/"]https://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/[/URL] this sports forum on an almost daily basis to have a heads up on who is paying, who is slow-paying, and who is paying fast with no problems. Some alarmists on this forum, but I'd rather be warned a little too early and too much than too late. [B]Regarding offshore accounts: 1.Never let your balance build too high at any one sportsbook. An in-trouble sportsbook would rather stiff one big winner than ten little winners. 2.Read all the rules thoroughly before you deposit, and don't violate any of them as a sportsbook will use these as a reason to not pay you. 3.Read all bonus rules thoroughly as any violation of these (many sportsbook have small inconspicous rules) will result in cancelling your winnings, your bonus, and even a confiscation of all your funds. 4.Check withdrawal costs, as these can be hefty. 5.Only deal with books that have a reputation for paying on time. 6.Check the offshore sportsbook industry forums on a daily basis, as the scene can change literally overnight as information comes in regarding the status of certain sportsbooks. When official news breaks or someone in the know puts it through the grapevine about who is operating on a shoestring, who has lost their financing, which owner has a drug or gambling problem, etc..., you want to know early enough to get your money out. 7.A number of rogue lines is another indicator of a sportsbook in trouble, as they are either gambling (not shading, but gambling), or attempting to attract as many deposits as possible. 8.Ridiculous offers are another sign of an offshore sportsbook that may not pay. If you are offered a 200% bonus on a $500 deposit, something is amiss. 100% bonus on a $100 deposit is a normal offer. 200% on a $500 deposit is not. 9.Always, always, always, be nice and maintain a good relationship with the Customer Service department, the accounting department (withdrawals/deposits), and sportsbook management, no matter how mad and frustrated you get, or how unfairly you get treated. This takes discipline, but will result in much more favorable treatment both in the present and down the road. Sometimes they want to pay you, but just screw up, and a couple of calls and a day or two is all it takes to straighten it out. Sometimes they actually do really want to pay you if there is a delay. Take necessary action and file a complaint with SBR or another sportsbook watchdog group if you need to, but always be cordial, courteous and professional, even if they aren't.[/B]
Don't know about WSEX... but anybody who thought Cascade was safe and solid regardless what any rating said didn't have their ear to the ground.
I guess a few arounf here [QUOTE=cswaters;25599]Don't know about WSEX... but anybody who thought Cascade was safe and solid regardless what any rating said didn't have their ear to the ground.[/QUOTE] Need hearing aids then.

[QUOTE=cswaters;25599]Don't know about WSEX... but anybody who thought Cascade was safe and solid regardless what any rating said didn't have their ear to the ground.[/QUOTE] This is really funny. Cascade went down pretty fast. A post from Fezzik (@Fezzik's place) in late January, 2007: [I]"Several persons have contacted me to provide a [B]Cascade Update. [/B]People have been asking about Cascade disassociating with a partner. I spoke today 30 minutes ago directly with Lenny at Cascade and [B]he assured me that their business is fine[/B]. Cascade is currently changing their platforms as they are coordinating with a new outfit. They may (or may not) reduce limits on some select bets, however Cascade is paying customers and Lenny assures me that all customers are safe to play at Cascade."[/I] Less than 3 months later Cascade was rated as a D book by SBR and soon thereafter went out of business.
Bob, You are going to get in trouble with the brass here, lol. It was nice hanging with you this past weekend. Molly and I are still at Harrah's Tahoe. Leaving tomorrow. This is one of the finest hotels in Nevada. Wow.
I wasn't aware that questioning "cswaters" was off limits.
going down WSEX is still on the line services.... reminds me when Sports Market went down ....they were on the screen till the end....same with Cascade.....throw them off till they make good. This is why people do not want to send money offshore.... nobody ever took charge to somewhat regulate it.... Cris should of taken the first step with Don Best years ago in the early 90's.
A person's home can tell you a lot about how they live. The cascade office was low-rent all around. Tech was garbage, 30 clerks at most, no talent on the stage... was kinda like a small per head shop. Just say 105, and big limits and all of a sudden they are the second coming of pinnacle. Lenny owes the people I work for a decent sum... but nothing a serious gambler couldn't cover. When he said I'll get you next week and next week came and went you knew it was done. This was at least 3 months before the crash. Any book that goes down 3 months after being touted as a "must have out" a la CRIS, Greek, etc. never had the cash to begin with. BTW, love the forum... nice to see a civil sports gambling forum.
I like jazzsports, but sounds like they are having problems I have actually had good luck with BetUS too, but sbr is reporting they are picking out some winners to steal from again and I am up there so no reload from me, too risky