Early Pac-10 Plays

Early Pac-10 Plays These games have been on Pinny for all of 15 minutes: 364 Washington Pick'em -1.05 over ASU - 2 Unit (I made the game 2.5) 385 Oregon St. +9 -1.05 over Arizona - 4 Unit (I made the game 4.5) Write ups to follow but the key now is to be early and aggressive...
Really like the Oregon State play. Washington line is a little too close for me given the situation coming off the USC win. Good Luck this weekend.
I don't like your power ratings Oregon State is not in the same class as Arizona, I have them 4.5 points different. The spot is bad for Oregono. BIG game vs. Boise, then Pac10 opener tough game vs. ASU at home, while Az worked on their tans....now the Pacific NW heads to the Desert where they typically get their butts kicked (climate never helps) if they are the inferior team, which they most certainly are. Az beat IOWA. Az is the better team, in the better spot. PASS
[QUOTE=Fezzik;29212]Oregon State is not in the same class as Arizona, I have them 4.5 points different. The spot is bad for Oregono. BIG game vs. Boise, then Pac10 opener tough game vs. ASU at home, while Az worked on their tans....now the Pacific NW heads to the Desert where they typically get their butts kicked (climate never helps) if they are the inferior team, which they most certainly are. Az beat IOWA. Az is the better team, in the better spot. PASS[/QUOTE] Fez - As always this is your board and I am extremely appreciative of all the constructive feedback you provide. My goal is to contribute and share my perspective about the Pac 10 and European soccer. That being said, my rationale for this line is I have Oregon St and Arizona about even on a neutral field and gave 4.5 points for the home edge to the Wildcats. As a long time Pac 10 follower and handicapper, October has seen Stoops and the Wildcats go in a starkly different direction than Coach Riley's Oregon St. side. Last three years (2007-Current) Arizona's record in October is a pedestrian 6-6, while Riley and Ore St. are 10-1 (loss to USC 42-36 Oct. 09). So when it comes to making adjustments through out the season, Riley and the Beavers have an undeniable edge in this regard. I'm impressed with the depth Oregon St. showed last against ASU. Their receiving corps by committee now will see James Rodgers return and give Arizona's 2nd ranked defense something to think about. The game against ASU was impressive as they lead throughout following an early 7-3 deficit. They really managed to control the line of scrimmage and pressure ASU's QB Threet (recording 6 sacks) and displayed more offensive prowess than their 99th national ranking suggests (this is largely attributable to them facing the nations 1rst and 3rd ranked defenses in TCU and Boise St.) Arizona is no slouch and I respect them, but your weather play of Northwest teams suffering when visiting the desert needs further scrutiny. It's not the second week of September when the temps are a searing 110 as seen by Iowa, it's a 5 pm kick off in mid October against an Arizona side who has some offensive question marks on their own. I've followed Senior RB Nicolas Grigsby (avg. 60 yards a game) since his freshman year and he simply doesn't have the kind of game-breaking speed or pedigree that will keep AZ quarterback Nick Goles from being able to effectively use play action passing like TCU and Boise St. My over/under for sacks against 'Zona in this game is 5 while, on the other side, Ore St has done a very respectable job of protecting QB Katz and the ball (no turnovers in 2010 and only 5 sacks combined conceded on hostile road fixtures against TCU and Boise St). I completely agree with you on the bye dynamic being a huge support for Arizona to work out some offensive kinks, but getting 9 points with an Oregon St side who is playing better each week, against a team with several offensive question marks, has yet to turn the ball over THIS YEAR, and excels in October against a team who regresses in the same month is simply too tempting a proposition.

By game time John, 10 or 10' will be available i'd imagine - home team in this one will be smashed of the boards will end up going through the ten .....
[QUOTE=costar;29244]By game time John, 10 or 10' will be available i'd imagine - home team in this one will be smashed of the boards will end up going through the ten .....[/QUOTE] M is now down to 7.5 and Pinnacle is down to 8...We'll see...
It's going to be interesting to watch. Arizona has some amazing adjusted yards per play numbers which is a huge driver, but the Oregon State in season improvement angle is very real almost every year as well. Dr. Bob was against Oregon State last week with ASU, Looking at the numbers I gotta believe he is also coming with Arizona Thursday. I took some Arizona -6.5 -130 yesterday to lighten up on my Oregon State.
[QUOTE=Twoniner;29285]It's going to be interesting to watch. Arizona has some amazing adjusted yards per play numbers which is a huge driver, but the Oregon State in season improvement angle is very real almost every year as well. Dr. Bob was against Oregon State last week with ASU, Looking at the numbers I gotta believe he is also coming with Arizona Thursday. I took some Arizona -6.5 -130 yesterday to lighten up on my Oregon State.[/QUOTE] That's probably good risk management...One question I'm going to have to ask Fez is even though this is a college game, with a situation where you have an openging favorite at 9 and it gets bet down to -7.5, can you play back with a teaser and get it down to 1.5
Week 5 college game with a total at 50 isn't going to work basic strategy imo. If you get later in the season and have some SEC game in the low 40's, I think your points are getting close to being worth enough.
[QUOTE=Twoniner;29295]Week 5 college game with a total at 50 isn't going to work basic strategy imo. If you get later in the season and have some SEC game in the low 40's, I think your points are getting close to being worth enough.[/QUOTE] I think you're right. I was just posing it as part of forum fodder...