Fezzik's 2011/2012 football record

[QUOTE=ComptrBob;46267]Didn't include the CFL pick because I wasn't sure it wasn't just a freeroll.[/QUOTE] very harsh

ComptrBob does a great job tracking people, you are free to do your own tracking if you want. Bob is a vet and smart, i'm sure he was reasonable when making his decisions.

I absolutely agree with Cmptr Bob. This is exactly what came to my mind. It was an attempt to free roll the board. As we all know a game of the year on CFL would just be a "lark". That is what I thought it was when I bet 2 grand on it.

Aren't you happy u bet 2 Grande on it? A pick is a pick include it on the record, I don't give a shit if fezz picks marbles. If we can bet on it and win its a win. i m just than full to get the information.

agbillion, I was being sarcastic of course. Yes, no sarcasm I think the pick should be on the record. However, the analytics here clearly say NFL and CFB so there are no in accuracies. More and more I agree with Anthony that is the whole record keeping thing---in general---is a lark. Some guys on this board bet 5 dimes a game for crying out loud. They're flipping the price of cheap cars for their unit size. And they're supposed to take seriously bet 1 unit on Miami under 3 FG in a game? Fez does the polite thing and puts it for 1 unit only a tonne of guys here can't even be bothered looking for it. Like Right Angle. The "extra" games count as a 1 unit play. Bet Cris had a limit on them of $350 when I tried to bet one there. It is a carnival bet. It is like winning a panda at the exhibition playing your favourite game. The halftimes aren't in the official record. Hell, I might actually get down on one of those. That little crappy 1-3 record I'll remember some of these more than the "extra" games I'll tell you that.

[QUOTE=Skeeter;46293]Like Right Angle. The "extra" games count as a 1 unit play. Bet Cris had a limit on them of $350 when I tried to bet one there. It is a carnival bet. It is like winning a panda at the exhibition playing your favourite game. The halftimes aren't in the official record. Hell, I might actually get down on one of those. That little crappy 1-3 record I'll remember some of these more than the "extra" games I'll tell you that.[/QUOTE] Extras are up at almost every book. $500 limit at cris (on phone), betonline, heritage, and 5dimes (avg acct) among others. Grande, Greek, and several offscreen/clones take dimes. I agree with the argument that they should never be rated higher than 1.0 unit, and that is what we have done with them this year, but when the standard limit is more than 1/2 the cost of a full season subscription, we think it is reasonable to count them. As for the halftimes, they have never been a part of the official record. We have been consistent with this from the beginning, not like we are pulling a fast one due to 1-3 start. Including them would only improve our long term results. The halftime threads are a combined 149-118 (55.8%) since we started them.

I have no problems with your scoring of your plays. It is very clear. Absolutely your overall HT record is solid. In fact, I would have no problems if you made your extra game plays 5 units, 10 units or 100 units as far as I'm concerned. Any criticism that I have is more within the system. To me Fez, yourself, etc. seem to take the position that your plays somewhere need be divulged as % of bankroll type plays or unit size plays. But of course we all have different units and books have different limits so this is incongruous so the record on this basis doesn't matter to me. A 1 unit on an extra game that you really think is a 5 unit play but will only release as a 1 unit play since you recognize that it may be unrealistic for a bettor to obtain 5 units of your play is very fair. But I also think it is fair to indicate that even at 1 unit there are bettors out there who are really at 0.5 units or less on these plays. And certainly fine with you mentioning your overall HT record as also being positive so not meaning directly to take a losing part of your record this year over 3 weeks but was more trying to make the point that the HT record long term may not be as good as the "extra" game record----in the long term so that any aggregate record of making these plays will likely be closer to the HT record for many bettors since they are likely more dollar invested in those plays. Ultimately your record -for me---will be scored by how well I do in my results. Whether you count HT or not, whether added or extra games are 1 unit like the others or 10 units, it will all come down to how well I end up doing of course which unfortunately includes even being able to obtain a bet on a play. Back to Fezzik, it is ironic that a CFL play which can clearly be bet for decent limits is ignored yet the prop plays are in. A scorekeeper has a different result than a bettor on these plays that is for sure. Fez touched on this with those Greek imaginary matchups which probably aren't on the record (I'm talking Houston +1 vs. Dallas and San Diego +1 vs. Atlanta). They probably weren't even picks for this but if you read between the lines these were the best plays he was going to give the board.

[QUOTE=Skeeter;46275]That is what I thought it was when I bet 2 grand on it.[/QUOTE] Frankly, I don't give a shit what you bet on it.

Fair enough. It was only written for emphasis that it seemed to be a reasonable play that could and probably should count on his record. I've felt I made it pretty clear that your write up of his record is also clear. Like probably everyone else here, I appreciate your work. It doesn't mean this scored record has anything to do with how I score Fez based on some of the reasons I've mentioned. I'm still trying to get my head around that someone Fez might free roll the board with the play. It does seem to indicate that a suspicion of dishonesty on the part of Fez to tell you the truth but you probably didn't mean it in that fashion. If you did, I'll say probably not. If it lost would Fez be on this thread saying "what did you do with my CFL play? It shouldn't count in my NFL record or CFB record". He might. What difference does that make? I would know it lost

The point is that this can quickly get to the point of tout segregation of picks if someone doesn't objectively compile these. The "CFL Game of the Year", The "2H 10 minute window of opportunity team total of the month", The "Preseason Non-US citizen 5star Futures Prop". The plays vary as to availability and bet limits so what you do with the info is up to you. No one will get down on every bet and the weights make little sense to anyone betting over $100. Look at the advice, assess what's available to you and then bet accordingly if you agree it's a good bet. Fez puts up the picks and let Bob compile the records. He's not looking to pump up or drag down the marks. He does an unbelievable job and offers a snapshot view of all the bets put out without the flowery language.