Giants -2 might not be around before kickoff

[QUOTE=sundown;7997]+8.5 teased both sides on this deal[/QUOTE] Solid job.

[QUOTE=THE SHRINK;7990]Just sayin'[/QUOTE] im glad my bw teaser is alive with la tech plus 13, unlv 45 and gmen plus 9.5 from yesterday. my 2 at all outs is long gone. hope billy is on the rams and pack as well.

[QUOTE=Fezzik;7993] 1h pk -115 Mirage Ken and I disagree on this BW stuff, and frankly he has been right lately, and I have been wrong. I always tell him, when he can give me BW info. BEFORE it is bet it is 100% gold GREAT solid winning stuff. BUT.........when I hear about it AFTER a move (or after most of the move) ESPECIALLY in the NFL, I tend to ignore it, or fade it. No one betting the Giant -2.5 is going to win at this. The line opened +2.75 on these guys. So.....you are basically bettting -130 when you missed on the +130 great bet. If you can find a good devivative bet on GMen at stale numbers, then fire with impunity. If you are staring at -2.5 you have to pass. If you see 3, you have to play Eagles IMO. YES, the Gmen are very angry about the way the Eagles ended their season, and McRib got on the phone, etc. BUT .....cmon, Giants are just barely the better team ON THE ROAD. NO way you can justify -3 here. As an example, LT +3 was gold yesterday, a great tip vs. IDaho BEFORE the move! AT +2 it was a clear no bet...........[/QUOTE] There were tainted 2's when I started this thread... BetJamaica is now at 3... If BW lays 2, then who am I to criticize him? He has been far more successful at sports betting in this industry than anyone else I know and it's not even close... THE SHRINK

NFL is not where Billy makes his big money IMO Ok, maybe I should write it's not where he has a big edge. You can make big money betting really big with small edges. I see his stuff, as do others, and I'm not even sure he wins at the NFL....Giants-2 is a pure coinflip IMO..... a MUCH more efficient market than NBA, college, etc. Mbook closes Gmen -2-106, Eagles +2+105. AND, every no talent/hack/follower playing Billy lemmings him on GMEN, so you have to feel that closing number is inflated by 5 cents. Billy plays Gmen-1. Does he win at the NFL? Yes. Does he have a big edge? No. Does he have an edge in this game? Maybe, but it's tiny or nothing.

I got a real good line on Philly. G-Men having some issues

[QUOTE=fullvalue1212;8001]im glad my bw teaser is alive with la tech plus 13, unlv 45 and gmen plus 9.5 from yesterday. my 2 at all outs is long gone. hope billy is on the rams and pack as well.[/QUOTE] if you continue to tease cfb you're going to have an extremely difficult time winning. not criticizing, just trying to help.

[QUOTE=Fezzik;8014]Ok, maybe I should write it's not where he has a big edge. You can make big money betting really big with small edges. I see his stuff, as do others, and I'm not even sure he wins at the NFL....Giants-2 is a pure coinflip IMO..... a MUCH more efficient market than NBA, college, etc. Mbook closes Gmen -2-106, Eagles +2+105. AND, every no talent/hack/follower playing Billy lemmings him on GMEN, so you have to feel that closing number is inflated by 5 cents. Billy plays Gmen-1. Does he win at the NFL? Yes. Does he have a big edge? No. Does he have an edge in this game? Maybe, but it's tiny or nothing.[/QUOTE] gmen -2 might be a coin flip to you but to him there's the possibility he feels he has an edge. the average of his nyg bets is prolly around -.8 but more of his $$ is around -1.3. i agree that lv's golf course guru prolly doesn't have a big edge in the nfl. i also agree that those that try n follow his plays will most lkely lose either b/c they get a bad number or have bad br management. no matter whom you're following, it's an exceedingly tough way to win. however, to suspect that he doesn't win in the nfl is absurd. there are select handicappers that can beat nfl closing lines. they're few n far between, they don't sell their picks and for the most part the public has no idea who they are but they exist. it's kind of like kaiser soze.

[QUOTE=goose148900;8016]if you continue to tease cfb you're going to have an extremely difficult time winning. not criticizing, just trying to help.[/QUOTE] i hear you bud. i play 1 every week for action. couldnt find anything interesting yesterday so i went with 2 bws and fezziks hilton play that line movement was 3 points the other direction. not suprised 1 bit that philly is winning in a rout. if i had philly plus 13.5 the giants would be up 28 -3

Reminds me of hedge funds. If you gave me $1 million to invest, I'd have a damn good chance of doubling it every year. If you gave me $20 billion, it would be tough to make 10%. But the guy with $20B still makes a hell of a lot more.

[QUOTE=goose148900;8018] gmen -2 might be a coin flip to you but to him there's the possibility he feels he has an edge. the average of his nyg bets is prolly around -.8 but more of his $$ is around -1.3. i agree that lv's golf course guru prolly doesn't have a big edge in the nfl. i also agree that those that try n follow his plays will most lkely lose either b/c they get a bad number or have bad br management. no matter whom you're following, it's an exceedingly tough way to win. however, to suspect that he doesn't win in the nfl is absurd. there are select handicappers that can beat nfl closing lines. they're few n far between, they don't sell their picks and for the most part the public has no idea who they are but they exist. it's kind of like kaiser soze.[/QUOTE] As Fezzik and you have both noted, it is my belief from observing him that he is barely a winner in the NFL... However, he owns College Football and College Hoops... THE SHRINK