Got down on Pitt +3 -110 at Southpoint...

I may very well end up with the same bet, but for now I am going to wait and see. I think we might get even better in Vegas (+2.5 +115 on game day maybe) and even if we don't I think it's best to wait to see where the market goes. One reason Pin may be getting so much GB action is because there are sharps selling through the 3. If they had -2.5 -110 like many other books, it would be a good bet to take GB -3.5 +138 for example. If this is the reason they are getting so much GB action, then their line is artificially inflated, which means your PIT bet is good. We'll see what happens from here.
[QUOTE=Rumpelstiltskin;38922]I may very well end up with the same bet, but for now I am going to wait and see. I think we might get even better in Vegas (+2.5 +115 on game day maybe) and even if we don't I think it's best to wait to see where the market goes. One reason Pin may be getting so much GB action is because there are sharps selling through the 3. If they had -2.5 -110 like many other books, it would be a good bet to take GB -3.5 +138 for example. If this is the reason they are getting so much GB action, then their line is artificially inflated, which means your PIT bet is good. We'll see what happens from here.[/QUOTE] I didn't do anything unique here. I like Green Bay in the game. This is simply a market play to offset my Green Bay Money line bet...
Is 3 widely available in LV now? I know Palms went to 3...
[QUOTE=Rumpelstiltskin;38911] b) they have not adjusted the price of the 3 for the new OT rules [/QUOTE] Just out of curiosity, you seem to make an important point of it, what do you think the adjustment to the 3 for the new OT rules should be?

[QUOTE=ComptrBob;38964]Just out of curiosity, you seem to make an important point of it, what do you think the adjustment to the 3 for the new OT rules should be?[/QUOTE] i would estimate 1c (+/- .5c)
1%, so a little more than 2 cents. Also note that with the +2.5 +110 and -3 +110s that we are seeing at Pin and BM, we are talking about the most valuable of cents, which strengthens the case for taking the +2.5 and laying the -3.
[QUOTE=commish;38962]Is 3 widely available in LV now? I know Palms went to 3...[/QUOTE] Palms=Southpoint, so no news here other than the fact that Netto doesn't get much respect :-) Also +2.5 +112 at the M. As I've said before I think this is a better number. Others here probably disagree with me. Pin peaked at +2.5 +113 a couple times and now moved to +3 -110. So I guess in that sense I won the argument :-)
[QUOTE=Rumpelstiltskin;38969]Palms=Southpoint, so no news here other than the fact that Netto doesn't get much respect :-) Also +2.5 +112 at the M. As I've said before I think this is a better number. Others here probably disagree with me. Pin peaked at +2.5 +113 a couple times and now moved to +3 -110. So I guess in that sense I won the argument :-)[/QUOTE] Haha...Southpoint and Palms have been playing ping pong for the last 48 hours. Great insight Rumpel. Hoping for a GB 1,2,3 point win...
[QUOTE=johnnetto;38970]Hoping for a GB 1,2,3 point win...[/QUOTE] can you make this happen, please??
[QUOTE=sundown;38965]i would estimate 1c (+/- .5c)[/QUOTE] Very close. First, get an estimate for what percentage of all games, a fav of sround 3 lands on 3 in OT on the first possession. Also let's assume safeties which immediately end the game play about the same small part in both the old and new systems. The estimates below are all rough since we are looking for a ballpark figure. 1. 7% of games lined around 3 go into OT. 2. 68% of OT games land 3 3. 50% of the time the small fav wins in OT. Putting these together, the small fav wins by 3 in OT is 7% * 68% * 50% = 2.38% of the total games. 4. A team (under the old system) wins 30% of the time in the OT first possession. This gives about 0.71% of the total games in the sudden death system are fav win by 3 in OT on first possession. Its pretty clear that the difference in % of the new system is much less than 1%. The new system introduces a disadvantage in going for a FG on the first possession since that doesn't end the game anymore. We can expect more TD than the old system. A FG on the first possession for the most part produces either a 3-0, 3-3 or 6-3 OT result after the other team has its first possession. If we say the first possession TD probability goes up a bit and even that the % of decisions on the first poss. goes up, its hard to believe that more than a third (more like 1/5 or so) of the previous wins by a FG become wins by a TD. There are a few other considerations, but it appears to me the difference is around a third of 0.71% or 0.24% which is about 1 cent. [B]So my guess is the adjustment is somewhere between 0.5c and 1c.[/B] Further, cents around the 3 are the same cents as any others(given the same attached ML), it just takes more cents to move the number than any other number in the NFL.