I completely disagree with Fez on the market

Sean - its not relevant to the marketplace today and fezz is a different animal these days... not sure why most people even on this site do not understand - there are very few sportsbooks in the world that want anything to do with fezz - this alone should put everyone at ease.......

[QUOTE=costar;47759]not sure why most people even on this site do not understand - there are very few sportsbooks in the world that want anything to do with fezz - this alone should put everyone at ease.......[/QUOTE] Well put. While he may have a tough time against WA lines, no one is rushing to book him and for good reason.

Oh I do not doubt Fez wins. I win simply by placing bets at slow moving -105 books as Pinnacle and Cris move. What I do wonder is whether or not he can post widely available picks that win at -110 and are not actively moving. Very few can do this. The only two I know are RAS in college and Six Sense in NFL. I know Fezzik could do this at one time. I think he's more of a market follower now as lines move. But Im not sure. I know for a fact I can't do that, yet I know I can win.

[QUOTE=sean1;47761] What I do wonder is whether or not he can post widely available picks that win at -110 and are not actively moving. Very few can do this. The only two I know are RAS in college and Six Sense in NFL. I know Fezzik could do this at one time. I think he's more of a market follower now as lines move. But Im not sure. [/QUOTE] how do u not know of sharp football analysis? I started a thread on my top 3 services this summer, he was one.... He is hitting 60% on nfl totals this year and hes moving lines more than I've seen him do before.... he is a lifetime 65% on nfl totals. I am surprised u don't know of him. I don't always get his exact # each time..... but I still win pretty close to the same as he does.... very similar to RAS w/ CFB. IrishTim - what do u mean no one is rushing to book Fez? Haven't u seen his ytd results? Even last 2 yrs? I'm pretty sure the M and Cantor would take any size bet from Fez on any game he wanted any day of the week. They book EVERYONE!!!!!!

I've heard of sharp. Problem is I can't find anyone outside of you that will verify his record and if it is accurate, the guy is either the best handicapper to ever walk the earth or the luckiest.

[QUOTE=IrishTim;47760]Well put. While he may have a tough time against WA lines, no one is rushing to book him and for good reason.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=sean1;47761]What I do wonder is whether or not he can post widely available picks that win at -110 and are not actively moving.[/QUOTE] What's Fezzik's take on this--can he beat WA lines?

[QUOTE=sean1;47774]I've heard of sharp. Problem is I can't find anyone outside of you that will verify his record and if it is accurate, the guy is either the best handicapper to ever walk the earth or the luckiest.[/QUOTE] I am a subscriber to Sharp but I have only been with him since the playoffs last year. He has different types of plays so it is sometimes hard to gauge a record and his marketing of picks but he does post all of his picks on twitter immdeiately after kick and I have never seen him not play games with this and his real picks. I will tell you that I missed his releases this week and the next day they had all moved a point. I am not sophisticated enough to know if it was him or followers or what but it is fact.

Sean1, I think if you're a follower you'll find that you end up with Fezzik's plays anyway. Indy +7, maybe you're book has +7-105...Fezzik comes around and bets +7-110 and now it is moving on Indy....you go follow with +7-105. I also would think Fezzik's plays are somewhat in the direction of the money but he'll throw a few douzies out there like the Rams +3 for a 4 weight a few weeks ago or Baltimore -11 for a 1 weight last week to sink your ship. He'll need a few of these contrary plays right but overall I don't think that is a big part of the releases. Most of the time he really has got you on plays where the money is going, where sharp bettors including himself are betting and you're getting it at -105 books before they move sounds good. I don't know how you rescue yourself. I already bet Indianapolis +7.5 BEFORE there is any release on this board of the play. And I'm following this bet because someone like Fez and others put big money on it at books with large limits. Of course he's got a better number than this board on the game and so might followers and then it gets released here. You're giving up some of the edge by playing that number but you're in on the sharp play. And he still finds stuff that moves after that so the board is on some good numbers. Admittedly a later number might not hold up as well to a playback on Atlanta let's say for an example and when it loses you pay extra juice on the loss. RAS is the same thing. I have bet many totals over the years and had no idea it was RAS. I know guys out here who still bet them and they have no idea it is RAS. I try to tell them. They don't care. They have a number 2 pts worse than RAS but 2 pts better than Pinnacle and Bet Cris they bet it and they don't care where it is from. They're going to win if RAS wins. The 2 pts is going to effect the season results but in all likelihood RAS beating WA numbers is very highly correlated to betting strategy playing off numbers on RAS plays. So YOU KNOW you can win? Then you should know that guys like RAS have won and guys like Fez have won plain and simple. He has won betting into -110 lines somehow someway.

[QUOTE=sean1;47774]I've heard of sharp. Problem is I can't find anyone outside of you that will verify his record and if it is accurate, the guy is either the best handicapper to ever walk the earth or the luckiest.[/QUOTE] LOL.... like bkeiller said... he displays all his plays after kick on his tweitter + his website records ... i will have to update my thread on my fav fb guys to show records .... he is hitting 60% on his nfl totals again this yr and all have been posted after kick....