I really think the Players are going to get crushed if no deal by 9/1

I've read that 4 teams for sure have serious financial problems. Rams,Jax,Buf,Car are the ones I know of. Maybe others, I don't know. Can't help the players cause. On another note, I have a life long friend that has a high profile position with a NBA team. He has assured me there will be a lockout in 2012 that will possibly last the entire season.

Pretty big decision on the anti-trust issues coming tomorrow out of Minnesota, and it doesn't look good for the players. I actually think the best thing that can happen (at least for us, the public) is for the NFL to win in the 8th District on the anti-trust issue, and then have judge Doty hit the NFL hard on the damages they owe the players on the TV contract shenanigans. The combination of those two forces should get the parties down to business and get things settled. Football in September? I say YES

[QUOTE=junkie;43520]Pretty big decision on the anti-trust issues coming tomorrow out of Minnesota, and it doesn't look good for the players. I actually think the best thing that can happen (at least for us, the public) is for the NFL to win in the 8th District on the anti-trust issue, and then have judge Doty hit the NFL hard on the damages they owe the players on the TV contract shenanigans. The combination of those two forces should get the parties down to business and get things settled. Football in September? I say YES[/QUOTE] Smart man... lets hope it happens as you call it...

There is not going to be a decision tomorrow from the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis. Tomorrow is the argument date in front of the 8th Circuit on the NFL's appeal of the Federal District Court in Minn.'s ruling lifting the lockout. Theoretically, the 8th Circuit could sit on issuing its decision for as long as it wants - that Court is not under a deadline to make its decisions. Legal experts though think the 8th Circuit decision will come down in July sometime, so, unless the 2 sides settle before then, the lockout will last at least as long until the 8th Circuit decision comes down, and even longer if the 8th Circuit rules in favor of the NFL.

[QUOTE=Cizzle;43523]There is not going to be a decision tomorrow from the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis.[/QUOTE] I stand corrected, only oral arguments tomorrow (but we may get an indication of where things will go). Bottom line is that the deck is stacked against the players on this front.

I agree ALLLLL sports athles are masively overpaid I don't think Hollywood is a good example.........people pay to watch certain actors.........in sports, FOR THE MOST PART, people pay to see their teams. If Romo goes out, and the other guy Kitna can spin the ball ok, all is fine.............

I agree ALLLLL sports athles are masively overpaid I don't think Hollywood is a good example.........people pay to watch certain actors.........in sports, FOR THE MOST PART, people pay to see their teams. If Romo goes out, and the other guy Kitna can spin the ball ok, all is fine............. My main thing with ALL sport athletes is despite making millions, they do so many stupid things to cost their teams games, AND quit on plays left and right (NBA players, after not getting foul calls, etc). And the work ethic just isn't there........how many NBA players even work on their free throws/outside shots during the offseason? I am simply NOT impressed, and I think the prices are ludicrous. I DO get the arguemtn that pro football players are shortening their life expectancies/etc. and THAT is a very good argument. Bottom line, it doesn't matter. IF we lose a good chunk of 2011, the new deal will see the Players BURIED by the owners........if the players had brains they would put out a fair counter proposal and go public with it...........to put pressure on the owners. By November, their houses will be in foreclosure, and the owners will smell blood in the water.

[QUOTE=Fezzik;43529]I don't think Hollywood is a good example.........people pay to watch certain actors.........in sports, FOR THE MOST PART, people pay to see their teams. If Romo goes out, and the other guy Kitna can spin the ball ok, all is fine............. My main thing with ALL sport athletes is despite making millions, they do so many stupid things to cost their teams games, AND quit on plays left and right (NBA players, after not getting foul calls, etc). And the work ethic just isn't there........how many NBA players even work on their free throws/outside shots during the offseason? I am simply NOT impressed, and I think the prices are ludicrous. I DO get the arguemtn that pro football players are shortening their life expectancies/etc. and THAT is a very good argument. Bottom line, it doesn't matter. IF we lose a good chunk of 2011, the new deal will see the Players BURIED by the owners........if the players had brains they would put out a fair counter proposal and go public with it...........to put pressure on the owners. By November, their houses will be in foreclosure, and the owners will smell blood in the water.[/QUOTE] amen!!! Wisest thing you've said on this board to date

Only disagreement I would have is that people do pay to watch Lebron, Brady and a select few, agreed a VERY few. I went to see Peyton not the Colts. Also in comparison to publicly traded companies CEO's pay it pales. Guys making $70 mil a year while their stock gets cut in half. Really outrageous stuff.

ESPN.com on today's argument in St. Louis: "[The 8th Circuit] did not issue an immediate decision and Judge Kermit Bye smiled as he told the attorneys before they left the courtroom: 'We wouldn't be all that hurt if you go out and settle that case.'" When the judge says something like that, it's usually a signal that parts of the decision are not going to be favorable to both sides. In other words, "Be careful what you wish for, because we may take the decision to places neither side wants to go. The best way for everyone to be happy here is for you guys to settle, because our decision is likley going to dissapoint both of you in some respect." Courts do this all of the time.