IS RAS College Totals Service worth $10,000

I don't see how you take for granted [QUOTE=ahearnb;7396]It doesn't matter how many subscribers he has, the numbers will move just as fast and just as far. I would think it's all about making the most money he can, but I'm not sure he's doing that with 25 subs at 10k/pop, is he?? He might make more just doubling whatever the price was last year. Sure, he might get more people bitching about not being able to get his release numbers, but who cares? That's what disclaimers are for.[/QUOTE] that the line will move the same. That is not a fair assumption.

[QUOTE=hardrock;7397]that the line will move the same. That is not a fair assumption.[/QUOTE] Why not? Do you think it will move slower? Less movement?

I think at 10k a pop it is much more controlled who gets access. Obviously the books were subscribing during my one and only week, last week, with RAS College Football picks. Number was gone in less than 10 seconds. KU Under caused me to lose out overall. Never again.

These are good questions [QUOTE=ahearnb;7398]Why not? Do you think it will move slower? Less movement?[/QUOTE] that probally won't be answered until he goes live with his new program. With his low fees in the past I am sure books bought his package just to move his lines quick. If Ed has 25 customers who will keep the picks private then maybe they won't move as fast. However, if you are selling 25 packages at $10,000 a pop, then you can bet your ass there will be some serious money behind his plays. I don't see how the lines won't move.:cool:

[QUOTE=KimLee;7393]How many bettable games do they release per season? If they release 400 games with a 5% ROI, then subscribers win 20 units EV. So you must bet a nickel on every selection to break even. It might make sense to build a clientele with access to slow books so they can get down more money.[/QUOTE] 2008-09 NCAA BASKETBALL SEASON RESULTS Wins/Losses Units +/- Win Percentage Avg Line Value SIDES: 111-104 +0.45 51.63% +0.50 TOTALS: 161-111 +40.40 59.19% +2.54 OVERALL: 272-215 +40.85 55.85% +1.63 2007-2008 NCAA BASKETBALL SEASON RECORDS RAS SIDES: 71-66 -1.65 UNITS (1/2 to 2 UNITS per play) RAS TOTALS: 88-56 +20.10 UNITS (1/2 to 2 UNITS per play) Two Year Total - 249-167 59%

I wonder if he'll give Baker the picks early for a 10k per unit freeroll...

OK, if you are going to fork over 10 dimes you are going to be taking this fight pretty seriously. 25 of these people/groups battling for the numbers in a thin market like this all at the same time? I can imagine getting frustrated fighting with only 2-3 others on the same side as me as a line steams, nevermind 25 ...

there has t be a way to do a group think, and hit the books all at once. Battling 2 or 3 is one thing, but in a sense the 25 are all one. I sure can't see paying 10gr to have the number disappear in 8 seconds. Eh what do I know.

As in any gambling endeavor, the best way to make money when you dominate a market like this is to just bet the fuckin' thing yourself.

[QUOTE=PerpetualCzech;7430]OK, if you are going to fork over 10 dimes you are going to be taking this fight pretty seriously. 25 of these people/groups battling for the numbers in a thin market like this all at the same time? I can imagine getting frustrated fighting with only 2-3 others on the same side as me as a line steams, nevermind 25 ...[/QUOTE] 25 and their many followers or employees It's done, early season at least. It would have been better for those good to bet and keep quiet. now the goose has been slaughtered and you cant unslaughter it. Bookies don't want anything to do with RAS 10 dime followers or anyone else banging them early in the year. Its been proven their are some better than them at these totals. They are reacting. Those who would pay now for RAS or new service jake at sportsforum are just poking sticks at the embers