math majors i have two nfl win totals that i know are sideable/bettable. the first seems better than the second, but i'm trying to quantify them both before pulling the trigger on amoumts. they're "no posts" so there is no tie up of money. first, an nfl team is over 10 -130 and under 11 -130. seems fat, but how so? secondi have another nfl team at over 8 1/2 -130 and under 9 +115. good also. these are at "off screens, so i can't even direct you anywhere. can anyone, without going to a lot of effort quantify these a la wong and yao ?