Saints call time-out 2:02 left 1h, driving

I think what Fezz was saying is there was no chance NO was going to run out of time. When NO had the ball at the Atlanta 30 with like 1:50 left, I was yelling for Atlanta to take time outs. There was no chance time was going to be a factor for NO and ATL might as well save as much as possible.

[QUOTE=sean1;8231]I think what Fezz was saying is there was no chance NO was going to run out of time. When NO had the ball at the Atlanta 30 with like 1:50 left, I was yelling for Atlanta to take time outs. There was no chance time was going to be a factor for NO and ATL might as well save as much as possible.[/QUOTE] Agree with Atlanta taking time outs. I can see your point about NO not running out of time. I think they can control what happens with the clock by running the ball, etc to make sure they use up as much time as possible before scoring except for Atlanta taking time outs. I can see that argument. Like I said, kind of splitting hairs, more than anything. At least Atlanta tried to score when they got the ball back with about 50 seconds or so. Most teams would just sit on it, especially after they tossed a pick six right before that.

[QUOTE=Sixth Sense;8228]I think I disagree with you on this Fez. I use to think the same thing but you actually end of with an extra 2 seconds of playing time by doing this. It's splitting hairs so not a big deal either way but I think it is actually the right move. Lets say there was 2:12 left before they ran the play to get to 2:02. If we assume a play takes 10 seconds before you call the time out and 30 seconds once you have no timeouts, you can play it down. You end up with the same amount of plays, whether you took the time out just before or after the 2 min. warning but you end of saving 2 seconds, which may or may not make a big difference later on. Again, splitting hairs because we are only talking about two seconds.[/QUOTE] What if New Orleans next play was an incomplete pass?

I'd say that about 1/3rd of what you guys all think are mistakes simply are not. About 1/3rd are marginal decisions that could go either way. About 1/3rd are actual, legit mistakes. Funny how much everybody thinks they know, though.

I'm not sure why NO would pass in that situation. They should have kicked the FG with 54 seconds left. Three shots at the end zone, when NO knows you're going to do it, can result in a turnover or 20 wasted seconds, about 40% of the remaining time on the clock. On the other side of this is, what, a pass-interference call? You'd just end up spending more time trying for the TD and perhaps still not getting in. I had Atlanta +11.5. When Atlanta got the ball back, I was worried they'd throw another pick 6. This game was the cherry on top of the turd sundae that was Week 8. I'll take it.

[QUOTE=tribecalledjeff;8247]I'd say that about 1/3rd of what you guys all think are mistakes simply are not. About 1/3rd are marginal decisions that could go either way. About 1/3rd are actual, legit mistakes. Funny how much everybody thinks they know, though.[/QUOTE] You got fired from your coaching gig, right?

[QUOTE=ahearnb;8257]You got fired from your coaching gig, right?[/QUOTE] I retired. How'd yours go?

[QUOTE=lvmike32;8216]sorry for those with -10. But I think another coaching blunder at end of game by Smith - completely disagree with Jaws/Gruden - think Smith has to kick the FG with 54 seconds left from the 25 - yes the TD is preferred but at the end of the day you need both and time is too precious - couldn't believe they didn't kcik it right there after the replay - then go for onsides with 50 seconds. Just another one of many blunders we continue to see.[/QUOTE] No offense, but I'll side with the guy who has won a Super Bowl.

[QUOTE=tribecalledjeff;8261]I retired. How'd yours go?[/QUOTE] I chose the headache of gambling instead. And here I usually defer to the guys that are smarter than I am. Maybe you should do the same.

Tribe, I love Gruden but blind faith is always bad. You seem to take the stance that coaches are always right 100% of the time and that is simply not the case. In this example, whether to kick the FG or not with 54 seconds to go, there are obviously just opinions. Same on Fez's example here. But many times with game/time mgt it's just fact coaches blow it and much more often than they should. There are many phases to coaching, such as actually coaching things in practice, setting up your offense/defense plays, hiring/managing people, organizing practice, etc - game/time mgt is just one facet - but it is one facet where someone who didn't play the game can often be just as sharp as the coach, or sharper. I think in this case, it played out that I was right - Atl got the ball back but simply didn't have enough time to try anything other than a miracle. With 20 more seconds, they might have had more of a chance of completing a pass down inside the 20 and getting out of bounds and having 2 to 3 shots at a TD.