[QUOTE=Superskrub;25618]Do you bet any of these 9-0, 6-0, 11-0 teambased stats?
Because when you take away the team from those queries, you will often get something that goes very close to 50% with 3-400 games.
I have started listening to this "Behind the bets" podcast. I think its 3-4 episodes back that this statistics guy said that he never bets teamspecific statistics, as you will never get to at least 100 games in a 3-4 year period that he feels comfortable with being statistically sound.[/QUOTE]
When handicapping, I look at a LOT of trends in past performance. I have no delusions whatsoever that an 8-0 trend has something close to 100% of continuing. When I write up a game with play-on trends of 13-0, 9-0 and 9-0 for one team and play-against trends of 0-14, and 0-11 for their opponent, I'm hoping that I have, say, a 57% chance of winning.
When evaluating the "strength" of a team trend, I ask myself, "Does this team trend fit into the character of the team?" I ask, What are the margins by which the team is covering or not covering?" I ask, "how timely is the trend?" I ask, "Is there an assignable cause for this trend?"
I have no problem playing against a 14-0 trend if it not timely, it doesn't make handicapping sense and/or the margins are small. When a team covers seven straight in a particular situation by at least a TD, that gets my attention. All other things being equal, I would prefer a 7-0 trend with a huge margin rather than a 14-0 trend with a few close covers.
Finally, I disagree with the "statistician" who needs 100 games before he plays a team trend. Of course, this would be ideal. But handicapping football is not like rolling die or flipping coins. It would be nice to run the experiment 500 times, but we just can't do that. We have to work with the data we have. We have to draw the best conclusions we can. When I quote a 23-0 ATS trend in a write-up, I'm saying that because this team has covered 23 straight times in this situation, we can have a positive expectation value if we play on it to continue. That is, the team is likely to cover again.
I just don't understand how some handicappers can purposely ignore a team's recent results simply because they did not play enough games.
I have no problem using a trend that is "only" 3-0 ATS if it makes sense, all three games are from the current season and all three solid were double-digit covers. It's not a perfect handicapping system. I'm not going to pick 100% winners. Yes, the trend might be a random fluctuation. Yes, we might lose. But it's the side on which to be. And that's the goal. Get on the right side.
To answer your original question, I would not base a play on a single 8-0 trend by itself simply because I have so much more information at my disposal. A recommended wager is always based on a thorough investigation of the trends, systems, injury reports, newspaper reports and more. THEN I ask the most important question of all -- AM I GETTING A GOOD ENOUGH LINE? Only if all the criteria are met do I release a play.
The trends are pieces to the puzzle -- not the entire picture.
Prof M.