Sick Line Moves in AFL Week 2 this morning....

I do not agree If they were released "ras style". You would have ZERO chance at getting down on all 4. If you are fast enough at least you can get down something. There is IMO 100% no shot at getting down on 4 of 5 games RAS style. The bottom line is its a very hard market to bet. Probably the hardest, but no way countdown would work. And there are plenty of "offscreens" to bet. The problem most have is their offscreens are really not buried outs.

[QUOTE=members;20564]If they were released "ras style". You would have ZERO chance at getting down on all 4. If you are fast enough at least you can get down something. There is IMO 100% no shot at getting down on 4 of 5 games RAS style. The bottom line is its a very hard market to bet. Probably the hardest, but no way countdown would work. And there are plenty of "offscreens" to bet. The problem most have is their offscreens are really not buried outs.[/QUOTE] We must agree to disagree. I have gotten down on RAS using "RAS style release" for 3 years now with no problems. I use the same assortment of offscreens for him as I try for the AFL. If the AFL releases were released 1 at a time and also divided into a Friday morning (for Friday games) and a Saturday morning (for Saturday games) dual release system things would be much much smoother.

IMO just dead wrong [QUOTE=burger;20566]We must agree to disagree. I have gotten down on RAS using "RAS style release" for 3 years now with no problems. I use the same assortment of offscreens for him as I try for the AFL. If the AFL releases were released 1 at a time and also divided into a Friday morning (for Friday games) and a Saturday morning (for Saturday games) dual release system things would be much much smoother.[/QUOTE] Its the market. In college hoops there are more than 5 games a week. You yourself said books took games off the board. What do you think will happen after first game gets hit? Books will take the rest off-destroying the market where only one or two people will get down. Again, the market consists of 5 games A WEEK! You can not compare it to any other market. What you can not "see" is there are other groups betting this market. They will bet before any release, in essence ruining the market. IMO they are morons. They blast the screen for maybe $3000, moving lines at this time of year 5-7 points. Real fkin brainwaves there, and the guy is a lawyer by trade-LOL, who has been doing this for years-learning nothing along the way. So, Sportsmemo actually did a fantastic job on the games that the morons did not bet. You called them headfakes. I called them brilliant. You should be thanking them too.

Ya, I don't think releasing 1 at a time would work too well after you have set the plays up with wrong way action. After play 1, shit would hit the fan.

Thankfully [QUOTE=Twoniner;20569]Ya, I don't think releasing 1 at a time would work too well after you have set the plays up with wrong way action. After play 1, shit would hit the fan.[/QUOTE] Someone actually "gets it"

[QUOTE=members;20568]Its the market. In college hoops there are more than 5 games a week.[B] This I admit I agree with and didn't take into 100% consideration.[/B] You yourself said books took games off the board. What do you think will happen after first game gets hit? [B]Another viable point. Although I still think a release for each day would still be better. Of course after today next week the lines may only be posted the day of game so there may be no choice but to do so.[/B] Books will take the rest off-destroying the market where only one or two people will get down. Again, the market consists of 5 games A WEEK! You can not compare it to any other market. [B]Again I agree here after contemplating.[/B] What you can not "see" is there are other groups betting this market. [B]I do see quite plainly, that is why I have Spokane+3 tonight.[/B] They will bet before any release, in essence ruining the market. IMO they are morons. [B]Agree 100%[/B] They blast the screen for maybe $3000, moving lines at this time of year 5-7 points. Real fkin brainwaves there, and the guy is a lawyer by trade-LOL, who has been doing this for years-learning nothing along the way. So, Sportsmemo actually did a fantastic job on the games that the morons did not bet. You called them headfakes. I called them brilliant. You should be thanking them too.[/QUOTE] [B]Isn't that what paying them is supposed to do? I need to thank them as well?[/B] .............

Members is right The market is so small, with alomst zero tolerance. RAS release would not work, only get you banned for a lousy nickel.

Well you were real fast to [QUOTE=burger;20571][B]Isn't that what paying them is supposed to do? I need to thank them as well?[/B] .............[/QUOTE] Start a thread blasting them on "leaking" the information, when in essence they kept the lines up and bettable above the #s that were on the screen 15 minutes before release. So instead of thanking them and stating you were wrong about the "leak" you come back with the system of releasing plays is crap. Anyone who has a clue about betting markets would easily understand that your suggestion would be way worse than what took place this AM. Look at the 4 games: 352 Chicago was 8, moved to 12.5 and 13-play was clev. If sportsmemo did nothing the line would be pick right now and how many clients got +8 or better because of them? 355 Spokane-bet by other moron group before release. 357 orlando was +3 before sportsmemo move. You could have, should have done better than that # all the way up to plus 7. Same thing here-if nothing was done most would be laying points not taking. 359 Dallas was 6.5 painted. Moved to 3.5 and 4. Same thing every client should have done better than the number of 6.5. So, IMO after you started a thread that accused them of leaks and you now see you were DEAD WRONG, a TY is in order from you and you alone.

[QUOTE]They will bet before any release, in essence ruining the market.[/QUOTE] When should "they" bet?

The moron group in question [QUOTE=RASMike;20575]When should "they" bet?[/QUOTE] Has been betting arena for 6-7 years. They should have enough places to bet that never shows a blip on the screen. If they do not have those places then you reach out to people who can get you 3000 in one fkin spot rather than blasting the screen. Its actually not hard. The casinos in vegas can get you 5000-7000. In addition Sportsmemo showed them the "how" this AM. So instead of getting the best bet on the board at plus 1 or pick they could have had +5 or 6 and gotten down 3 times as much. Hope that answers it for you.