Teddy Covers has hit the wall,,

[QUOTE=sportsmemo;33157]2010 Calendar Year Results All Sports Teddy Covers 435-351 +65.10 RAS 274-201 +56.55[/QUOTE] What about prior years?

RAS record is better than Teddy's in previous years. Edward is a talented handicapper with a very talented team. This thread was about 2010 results and my participation in this thread was only to clarify what I felt were erroneous statements.

[QUOTE=sportsmemo;33157]2010 Calendar Year Results All Sports Teddy Covers 435-351 +65.10 RAS 274-201 +56.55[/QUOTE] You left out the most important stat, ROI: RAS 11.91%, Teddy Covers 8.28% I didn't even take into account the fact that TC had 51 two unit plays, producing 30.0 units in 2010, compared to RAS having only 5 multi-unit CFB (four 1.5u, one 2.0u) and 14 CBB (nine 1.5u, four 2.0u) plays. Further, RAS's historical win % record justifies a larger unit bet than TC based on any sort of fractional Kelly criteria betting. The total subscription cost was actually cheaper for RAS in previous years than the equivalent "auto-bill" cost for TC. However due to RAS's latest increase, they will be close to the same for 2010, and RAS will probably be more expensive for 2011. Conclusion: RAS is more profitable than TC in 2010.

I HAVE to disagree, Bob do you even bet?? "RAS historical W/l justifies a higher base unit" When RAS releases on the Tiger Griz OVER 130, the typical seasononed betting pro is getting MAYBE 500 at OVER 130 500 at OVER 131 provided he can bet it within 6 seconds.... Want more? Feel free to bet OVER 132.5........ I love what Ed is doing, but it ain't even to bet his stuff............ANYWHERE.

Wouldn't argue or dispute a single fact from Bob's above post. However ComputerBob posted earlier like it was completely crazy to compare. You criticized Fezzik like he was out in left field with his statement. Considering other factors too make the case closer. The difficulty in getting the lines on a RAS college basketball game compared to those those in the NBA, NFL or MLB markets is not comparable. Additionally getting the justified larger UNIT down based on Kelly on a college basketball total is not as easy as implied. Additionally in an earlier post you originally incorrectly attributed the small market Arena football as a large factor in 2010 results.

[QUOTE=JohnnyGun;32982]DUde, I must tell you that the writeups on your blog for football have been ATROCIOUS. THe win/loss % has to be under 50% and some of the games picked are downright head scratchers. Pretty disappointing. If you would like me to give you a few examples of the horrific handicapping I will. Peace.[/QUOTE] bump....bump

[QUOTE=sportsmemo;33175] However ComputerBob posted earlier like it was completely crazy to compare. You criticized Fezzik like he was out in left field with his statement. [/QUOTE] First, Fezzik posted TC was up "just under 100 units" for the year. Well, no, unless you consider 65-70 as "just under" 100. I didn't act like Fezzik was "completely crazy". Just that claiming TC was arguably "No 1 in the WORLD" did seem to be arguably incorrect. I gave one example that immediately came to mind. BTW, I did note that TC is the best capper this year of the 10 SM cappers. My sincere kudos to TC. I think we've beaten this dead horse into the ground. [QUOTE=sportsmemo;33175] Additionally in an earlier post you originally incorrectly attributed the small market Arena football as a large factor in 2010 results.[/QUOTE] If you carefully read my comment, I didn't attribute any of the 2010 results to arena football. I said TC has made "quite a bit" from arena football (a thin market) in response to a post by MrTop describing the well-known problems with RAS's picks. I gave other examples where a capper's success breeds rapid line changes and difficulty getting down a bet. If TC hasn't made much in arena football in the past, and indeed you think the rapid line changes aren't due to his picks, I will leave out TC entirely and amend the statement to "cappers such as ScottW and others" who move the arena football market.

[QUOTE=Fezzik;33173]"RAS historical W/l justifies a higher base unit" When RAS releases on the Tiger Griz OVER 130, the typical seasononed betting pro is getting MAYBE 500 at OVER 130 500 at OVER 131 provided he can bet it within 6 seconds.... Want more? Feel free to bet OVER 132.5........ I love what Ed is doing, but it ain't even to bet his stuff............ANYWHERE.[/QUOTE] Funny post. No question that because of RAS's success his picks move the line. A little off topic, but your scenario above reminds me of when you extolled Russ Culver's 2006 baseball prop betting as an example of a "sharp" profitably hitting a limited market when he was posting on EOG. Well, first, his regular season profit on 290 prop bets was only +1.08u. Further, the props were only available at Pinnacle and he would pound them for the limit sometimes $200, sometimes $500 himself and then post the line that he got initially! Pinnacle would then move the line 15 to 40 cents so it was literally impossible for anyone to bet the line he got unless someone decided to pound away in the opposite direction. And what was Culver's philosophy on all this? He was "only concerned about his bets", he couldn't care less whether anyone reading his posts which he got paid for, could bet anywhere near the same line.

Is it time to lock this thread yet?

One other thing before this goes away: And this is a question. It's 10 minutes till KO, so I'm sure this won't bother anyone. Let's say this well known capper has KC today. And first check line is 7.5. Then, it DROPS to 7, against that play. What is the message? Market against the play? Makes me nervous,,,