Thanks for Stan/Org Thoughts. How about NC ST? I don't get this one either. Maybe the better team at home getting 4 points. Think it opened 6 and now 4 so at least it's going the way I see it. Is any QB playing better than the NC St QB right now? VTech loses to JM, comes back in the 2nd half to beat a pretty bad EC team and then struggles with a BC team that really seems to be down this year, at least on Offense. Just seems you have a very hot team, hot QB, solid coach getting more than 3 at home, where they'll be going nuts due to the teams fast start. Probably the biggest game in NC ST in awhile. Just not buying the VT defense yet, at least not to stop Russell. Appreciate thoughts as always.